winnie&bezza Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Bit off topic really but I've got someone interested in buying my gun but they're in Scotland and I'm in kent! So my question is that the payment will be done via PayPal/bank transfer but how easy is it to do and how can you trust both sides? And anything to worry about? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Bu Le Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Paypal can be a problem if something goes wrong once you have parted with the gun, they will do nothing where shooting gear is concerned, supposed to be in their T&C's somewhere. A bank transfer is safer but not without pitfalls, as you will be receiving the payment it should be safe enough, however I would wait a couple of days after the transfer before you send your gun. I believe but not certain that it may be possible to reverse a transaction within a limited time frame. If both parties have internet banking its a doddle to do otherwise I guess its a trip to the bank for your buyer who will need your sort code and account number. Could ask him/her for a cheque and send gun once the cheque is cleared, around 5 days, if the person is genuine they won't mind waiting. Hope this helps. Edited January 7, 2015 by Sha Bu Le Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I bought my 22wmr from a chap in Orkney. We negotiated RFD costs and P+P so we were both happy. If I remember right I paid by cheque but I know most people don't have a cheque book these days. In discussion with the vendor everything added up and I went ahead with it. I was not disappointed but, in the end, it's a case of making a decision based on best information. Google and social media can sometimes be used to help make informed decisions. I sold a piece of porcelain to a chap in the states and I was easily able to find out enough about the buyer to satisfy myself that he was trustworthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yeah I think I'd go for a bank transfer rather than PayPal but will also ask for a cheque. It's just a scare sending off a gun and not getting the money! On his email it comes up under a business that looks reputable. But what stops me receiving the money but not sending gun? Not that I'd do that but it seems all about trust! Cheers for helpful replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 You either send off the gun before payment or after. There has to be an act of trust on one side or the other. Personally, I would never send a gun anywhere without a cleared payment, which could not be reversed, with the buyer taking the risk of transit damage. If it arrived damaged at the other end, would you be happy getting it back and no payment? A few years ago, I bought a trap gun from a shop, got it via my local RFD, only to find it had a sporting stock. Contacted shop who insisted it was a trap stock. I have bought enough guns to know the difference. It fitted my son, so we kept it for a short while. Now, I only deal face to face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Well I'd send it after payment has cleared. No I wouldn't be happy having a damaged gun back and not being paid so I'd want it as once sent that's it,nothing to do with me. That makes me worried! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 If Im buying owt of someone off PW as I have done in the past and quite recently, I've asked for bank account details and paid money directly into their account and waited for the item to arrive. So far I havent been let down. Paypal is costly and not without its pitfalls, Ie, their charges, and their record on dubious handling of disputes, ie immediate refunds without proper investigation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Well the my gun is for sale on here but the mentioned buyer saw it on gunstar. Well it seems simple I suppose but it's natural to worry. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I would go back transfer.I have done lots of deals this way both sending and receiving payment.what I usually do is transfer any incoming funds straight to another account as soon as it hits the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 The only way I would sell a gun would be face to face and cash . Have sold a couple of guns on here and no problems . I would never pay up front for a gun unseen . Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 You do that so the money cant be taken back out of that account that the buyer has transferred to bostonmick? Well he said he's happy with picks etc but personally I wouldn't either! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Paypal is a no-no for guns, as already mentioned. Once you have funds cleared in a bank transfer, you're good to go. I'm assuming it's an airgun, and doesn't need sending through RFD? Just make sure the package is insured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I gather that now haha! Okay cool! It's a shottie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 So, by law it must be sent through an RFD, so that it can be entered onto the person's certificate. That will involve you giving the gun to a local RFD (who may charge a fee), they send it on to the other RFD (who may well charge a fee), and them handing it on to the buyer. So you need to arrange with the buyer who is paying the RFD fees, and also find out how much the fees are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yes he said he is happy to pay fees but hopefully the gunshop will send it especially when I'm buying a gun from them that the sale of gun mentioned is paying for! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcw65 Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I got the buyer to transfer the money straight to the gun shop who were sending mine to his rfd then used it against a new gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Mcw65 that's a great idea! Was the gunshop that did it happy enough to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yeh if it's a shotgun, let the RFDs do the transfer of funds if they're ok with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Okay I'll have a look into it then! Would the RFD wait a couple of days or would they be confident of sending gun off straight away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Okay I'll have a look into it then! Would the RFD wait a couple of days or would they be confident of sending gun off straight away? Ask them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted January 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I asked them earlier humper and the member of staff was a bit kerfuffled and said they might take the payment from buyer so I can use it against a gun but he wasn't sure on there account rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 DO you not as the keeper of the gun at this point have to sign/fill in his licence?..personally would do the gun transfer via rfd for the peace of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted January 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Well I planned to send it RFD mate. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchiet123 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Well I planned to send it RFD mate. Cheers If you have a credit card thats the way id do it as most credit cards these days, if not all, have protection schemes and they will be able to get your money back if it all goes wrong. FSCS Financial services compensation scheme covers up to £85,000 in your bank account as well so that might come into play. My dad had a rather large sum of money stolen last christmas, and also got scammed a few years back on an airgun purchase for about £400- credit card company and bank got money back very quickly in both scenarios. good luck! Mitch Edited January 9, 2015 by Mitchiet123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted January 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 That's a good idea mitchiet but I haven't got a credit card unfortunately but I keep thinking of getting one but keep forgetting. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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