Beretta06 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Do you have a preference? If so, which is it, and why? B06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I would get Muller. The rest seem of a similar standard, but Muller are lighter and do not seem to need cleaning at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Over the years I've had several guns with retro Teague chokes. Dealing with Nigel Teague and his staff is simplicity itself. They check the dimensions of the bores and the chokes are made with the correct constriction to the actual bore dimension, ordering new chokes is a doddle just quote the gun's serial number and they'll ensure the correct choke constriction is sent to you without delay. I bought a Miroku MK38 last year that had been Briley retro choked. I ordered a skeet and IC choke from Chris Potter and got my gunsmith to mike them up to the barrels. The skeet which should've had a 5 thou constriction was actually 10 thou and the IC which should've been 10 thou was actually 15 thou in other words both were tighter by one choke size. I spoke to Chris and he sent me another skeet and a cylinder choke. When they were miked up the skeet and cylinder were the same with no constriction. I emailed Briley in the USA and explained the situation and they said my 18.7mm barrel was .736" and they round it to .735" and they make chokes to a tolerance of +/- .001" and the chokes I had must've been mismarked. Not overly impressed with that. The actual choke tubes in stock at Potter's is variable and replacements have to come from the USA. Teague's turnaround time is just a couple of days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta06 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I would get Muller. The rest seem of a similar standard, but Muller are lighter and do not seem to need cleaning at all. Let me revise the question. In relation to game guns, who would you use to bore out the barrels and fit flush fitting chokes. Teague, or Briley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta06 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Over the years I've had several guns with retro Teague chokes. Dealing with Nigel Teague and his staff is simplicity itself. They check the dimensions of the bores and the chokes are made with the correct constriction to the actual bore dimension, ordering new chokes is a doddle just quote the gun's serial number and they'll ensure the correct choke constriction is sent to you without delay. I bought a Miroku MK38 last year that had been Briley retro choked. I ordered a skeet and IC choke from Chris Potter and got my gunsmith to mike them up to the barrels. The skeet which should've had a 5 thou constriction was actually 10 thou and the IC which should've been 10 thou was actually 15 thou in other words both were tighter by one choke size. I spoke to Chris and he sent me another skeet and a cylinder choke. When they were miked up the skeet and cylinder were the same with no constriction. I emailed Briley in the USA and explained the situation and they said my 18.7mm barrel was .736" and they round it to .735" and they make chokes to a tolerance of +/- .001" and the chokes I had must've been mismarked. Not overly impressed with that. The actual choke tubes in stock at Potter's is variable and replacements have to come from the USA. Teague's turnaround time is just a couple of days Thanks. Have you ever had issues with Teague's removal tool? I have an inherent fear of the tool flaring the choke/barrel, due to it needing to use friction (no notches) to remove the choke. I have visions of hammering it in to get it to purchase! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 BO6, I have a multi choke gun and have aftermarket teagues 3/8 & 5/8th they are great.I think however you are considering having your barrels made into multi choke? All I can say on this is that Purdey/Boss/Powells/Churchill ALL go to teagues if a customer wants a fixed choked gun multi-choked...and if this is for that new pair of Perazzis you have commissioned I would talk to Teague...if Purdey/Boss are happy that is some endorsement..I have not had any retro fitting work done so do not speak from experience. ATB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I would use Teague in preference to anyone. As with PhilR's post above the constrictions will be matched to your gun's bore size and the supplied chokes will be serial numbered to your gun. Nigel has been doing this for donkey's years and there's no one better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Thanks. Have you ever had issues with Teague's removal tool? I have an inherent fear of the tool flaring the choke/barrel, due to it needing to use friction (no notches) to remove the choke. I have visions of hammering it in to get it to purchase! The tool works absolutely fine,agreed no notches sounds daft but is very neat & effective no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Teague for me as the customer service is excellent and turnaround time for new chokes are within a few days, no problem with the tapered choke key if your unsure get the extended chokes so you can tighten by hand if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Thanks. Have you ever had issues with Teague's removal tool? I have an inherent fear of the tool flaring the choke/barrel, due to it needing to use friction (no notches) to remove the choke. I have visions of hammering it in to get it to purchase!I use the Teauge choke key on Teauge flush chokes and also the standard beretta chokes. No issues with it at all, to put your mind at rest if you could flare chokes or barrels by pushing the key in by hand I hate to see what damage it would suffer by shooting lead shot down it in which a far larger force is exerted on the choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecash Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I use extended teagues on my mk38 as they can be so easily screwed in and out by hand - dont forget to grease the threads using the MINIMUM of grease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) i had a 682 trap that had been retrofitted with teague thin walls. best workmanship i had seen in regards to retrofit. teague gets my vote. Edited January 20, 2015 by brett1985 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Let me revise the question. In relation to game guns, who would you use to bore out the barrels and fit flush fitting chokes. Teague, or Briley? Nigel Teague. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Let me revise the question. In relation to game guns, who would you use to bore out the barrels and fit flush fitting chokes. Teague, or Briley? Teague for the simple reason that as far as I know Briley do not carry out such work , they are a american company with a british agent ( Chris Potter ). Deal with teague and you are dealing direct and they know their onions on that type of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Do you have a preference? If so, which is it, and why? B06 Briley, the Series One are superb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I have one gun with Teague thin-wall chokes and another where the fixed chokes have been altered by Teague. If you are starting from a fixed choke gun, I would look no further than Nigel Teague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta06 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) My current Perazzi has Briley chokes fitted - via Chris Potter. The barrels were bored/threaded by the guy they use, who I believe is Briley trained - at least he'd better be, as that's what I was told!!!! The choking in the new pair are half and three quarters, which I think will be a little rigid and rough, especially for incoming grouse. Edited January 20, 2015 by Beretta06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 My current Perazzi has Briley chokes fitted - via Chris Potter. The barrels were bored/threaded by the guy they use, who I believe is Briley trained - at least he'd better be, as that's what I was told!!!! The choking in the new pair are half and three quarters, which I think will be a little rigid and rough, especially for incoming grouse. He did the work for me and made a lovely job of it, can't recommend them highly enough!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta06 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 He did the work for me and made a lovely job of it, can't recommend them highly enough!!! The work they did for me was excellent, I am just pondering if there is any benefit in using Teague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Thanks. Have you ever had issues with Teague's removal tool? I have an inherent fear of the tool flaring the choke/barrel, due to it needing to use friction (no notches) to remove the choke. I have visions of hammering it in to get it to purchase! I've had long flush chokes and also extended chokes. The advantage of extended chokes is, if on a game shoot and you slip over, say as a walking gun and dip the barrels in mucky stuff it's very easy to remove the chokes and clean a couple of inches of choke tube than a pair of barrels. Yes I took a purler crossing a ditch with gun open and unloaded and ended up with mud up both barrels. A few minutes work with a pencil and a handkerchief saw me back in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta06 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I've had long flush chokes and also extended chokes. The advantage of extended chokes is, if on a game shoot and you slip over, say as a walking gun and dip the barrels in mucky stuff it's very easy to remove the chokes and clean a couple of inches of choke tube than a pair of barrels. Yes I took a purler crossing a ditch with gun open and unloaded and ended up with mud up both barrels. A few minutes work with a pencil and a handkerchief saw me back in action. Heavens to Betsy!! Extended chokes on a game shoot?? I would have to send you home :) :) . You'll be wearing a cammo baseball cap next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) You'll be wearing a cammo baseball cap next! Never seen him without one!! Wears it backwards to B) Edited January 20, 2015 by Cosd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta06 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Never seen him without one!! Wears it backwards to B) I need a glass of port and a short respite. I am shocked and stunned - and a little scared too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 I need a glass of port and a short respite. I am shocked and stunned - and a little scared too! Take it easy big feller! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 20, 2015 Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Let me revise the question. In relation to game guns, who would you use to bore out the barrels and fit flush fitting chokes. Teague, or Briley? Teague. Have no experience of Briley but my Daytona is fitted with Teagues slim fitting chokes. They are such a good fit you need good eyes to tell there are chokes in there, and they throw excellent patterns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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