ROBLATCH Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 https://www.gov.uk/firearms-licensing-police-guidance this may help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBLATCH Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 part A date of sale OR transfer part B name and address of person selling OR transferring firearm part C state whether sold,let,given or lent etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10gaugewannabee Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 sorry but theres no way i am going to let my cert out of my view or controll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 part A date of sale OR transfer part B name and address of person selling OR transferring firearm part C state whether sold,let,given or lent etc etc This is the relevant passage which you may have missed above Table 1. 3. Any circumstances attending the transaction which appear to require investigation must be reported within 48 hours to the chief officer of police who granted this certificate. If you are selling a firearm which will be sent or posted to another dealer for the buyer to collect in person you should complete this table and notify the police. The dealer who actually hands over the firearm should not complete the table or notify the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 I had an RFD transfer from Dibs off here last week and my local RFD just added it to my cert when I picked it up. So he is unaware of this change too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Sounds like another case of Chief Officers making up "laws" again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Sounds like another case of Chief Officers making up "laws" again. don,t think its making them up but not enforcing the law as it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Charlie and cayman are absolutely correct.It has been the rule for a very long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 I'm still doing it the old way and So are most of the RFD's i know , Thats what the RFD fee is for ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 I'm still doing it the old way and So are most of the RFD's i know , Thats what the RFD fee is for ! The sensible way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 The sensible way Sensible perhaps, but not in accordance with the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Personally if I was buying a gun private I would want to view it before I paid for it so I would go and view with my licence with me for if the gun was as described. I would not send my certificate to someone I don't know as it could be anyone on the other end of an advert. If the gun was to far to travel to view it I would look for one closer by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throttlemonkey Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 I bought a gun 3 wks ago RFD to RFD cert stamped at my end all ******** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throttlemonkey Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Although gun was sent straight from distributor after proof to my RFD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBLATCH Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) This is the relevant passage which you may have missed above Table 1. 3. Any circumstances attending the transaction which appear to require investigation must be reported within 48 hours to the chief officer of police who granted this certificate. If you are selling a firearm which will be sent or posted to another dealer for the buyer to collect in person you should complete this table and notify the police. The dealer who actually hands over the firearm should not complete the table or notify the police. i think personaly that could open up a whole can of worms as the guidance of the cert holder quotes please ensure that anyone wh sells ,lets on hire , gives or lends you a firearm reads these notes !! nothing to mention of transfering as in part A & B if thats the case then my local feo needs further education because as stated in previous post done just that (transfered).reading allcompliance notes says nothing with regards to transfering firearms from rfd to rfd nor are there any on the home office guidelines,, also the piece missing is ( except in circumstances which may require investigation as above ) to me its quite self explanatory if the certificate is read correctly, nothing to mention transfer Edited February 24, 2015 by ROBLATCH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Sensible perhaps, but not in accordance with the law. There's nothing in the law to prevent an individual transferring a firearm to an RFD or in that RFD shipping it to another who then transfers it onto another private individual's certificate. This is just people bowing down to another bit of pointless beaurocracymade up by jobsworths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Suggest you read earlier posts where others have quoted the relevant words ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Suggest we get the view of the BASC firearms team on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidawson Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Sounds like a good way for a complete stranger to know your address and what guns you have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carman06 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 http://basc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2014/08/REMOTE-FIREARMS-TRANSACTIONS2.pdf Here is BASC take on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 So say I send my cert off for the gun. The lad fils it in. Then his RFD sends it to mine. But I can't get there to pick it up for 5 days. They will have my shotgun for more than 72 hours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carman06 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 The RFD will not be loaning the shotgun so will not be restricted to the 72hrs, they are acting as a courier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted February 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 But with it being on my cert. it will be out of my presence for over 72 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 I had an RFD transfer from Dibs off here last week and my local RFD just added it to my cert when I picked it up. So he is unaware of this change too I had an RFD transfer from Dibs off here last week and my local RFD just added it to my cert when I picked it up. So he is unaware of this change too This was quoted to me before I sent this gun off so I rang Essex Police. The guidance says the transferor will enter it on the ticket so if you take it to a dealer and they book it into their records you have effectively transferred it to them. they send it to another dealer who enters on their records and they then become the transferor and enter it onto the SGC. Essex Police are not aware of any changes and confirmed this was still the correct method. will be interesting if they are right but sounds like interpretation of new wording which may be incorrect by some dealers or forces. It doesn't make sense to have to send an original sgc in the post and effectively make a blind sale to someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbitbosher Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 There's nothing in the law to prevent an individual transferring a firearm to an RFD or in that RFD shipping it to another who then transfers it onto another private individual's certificate. This is just people bowing down to another bit of pointless beaurocracymade up by jobsworths. WELL ! So well said ! Nothing in the Law stoping me sending a Gun to another RFD (RFD to RFD ) Then the RFD i'm sending it to "Sells" it Face to Face !!!!!! There is no way on the planet i'm putting a gun on a license without seeing the license holder "Face to Face" The bunch of Norks can Kiss my fat one ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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