FalconFN Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Do you not feel just a little bit let down that he has gone back on his word so soon? I've read lots and lots of comments where others have 'put the boot in' to Labour, Tory politicians so why should ukip be any different? He is a very good speaker, he mobilised mony people and he speaks for lots in this fair isle but he had also shown he has poor judgement and is a liar. Surely it is more than fair that he gets pulled up on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 nigel lives on and he cannot quit come on ukip He can quit, he chooses not to. There is a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) He can quit, he chooses not to. There is a difference. He did and then was asked to return , There is a difference. anyway any chance of turning the sheet and blowing something else out of your very big, loud and out of tune trumpet? KW Edited May 11, 2015 by kdubya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Do you not feel just a little bit let down that he has gone back on his word so soon? I've read lots and lots of comments where others have 'put the boot in' to Labour, Tory politicians so why should ukip be any different? He is a very good speaker, he mobilised mony people and he speaks for lots in this fair isle but he had also shown he has poor judgement and is a liar. Surely it is more than fair that he gets pulled up on this. how is he a liar please, he put his resignation in did he not? I once did in 1981, I was talked into staying Farage has just done the same.for me it was the best move I ever made, I hope dearly that its the same for him, and hopefully for the 64% of the country who did not want plum gob and his ever so bent con men. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 how is he a liar please, he put his resignation in did he not? I once did in 1981, I was talked into staying Farage has just done the same.for me it was the best move I ever made, I hope dearly that its the same for him, and hopefully for the 64% of the country who did not want plum gob and his ever so bent con men. KW He said he'd resign, he has not resigned. He is fully at liberty to go and has no binding contract forcing him to stay so it is his decision not to resign. In my book that makes him a liar. Either way you look at it he had shown very poor judgement. If Milliband did this would you be so forgiving? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Good Idea .... Lets also have a Merseyside independent state. I thought it already was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) He said he'd resign, he has not resigned. He is fully at liberty to go and has no binding contract forcing him to stay so it is his decision not to resign. In my book that makes him a liar. Either way you look at it he had shown very poor judgement. If Milliband did this would you be so forgiving? I think not. He submitted his resignation and the UKIP NEC have refused to accept it, so he is as good as his word! Edited May 11, 2015 by TIGHTCHOKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 He submitted his resignation and the UKIP NEC have refused to accept it, so he is as good as his word! They cannot refuse a resignation, he chose not to resign. No spin can hide that fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 They cannot refuse a resignation, he chose not to resign. No spin can hide that fact. Any request to resign can be refused! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Any request to resign can be refused! No it can't, a request for voluntary redundancy can but not a resignation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Higel Farage submitted his resignation from being the Leader of UKIP, the NEC decided not to accept it. Edited May 11, 2015 by TIGHTCHOKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 FalconFN - I sincerely hope you never end up in a witness box in Crown Court. I think you would be shredded. You seem unable to understand the phrase "subtle difference". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 FalconFN - I sincerely hope you never end up in a witness box in Crown Court. I think you would be shredded. You seem unable to understand the phrase "subtle difference". Oh Gordon, don't stop him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Do you not feel let down that he has not stuck to the 'spirit' of his promise? I don't like UKIP's policies but I found NF entertaining and he has done his bit to liven up the political world, but some of the shreds of respect I had for him have gone I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Do you not feel let down that he has not stuck to the 'spirit' of his promise? I don't like UKIP's policies but I found NF entertaining and he has done his bit to liven up the political world, but some of the shreds of respect I had for him have gone I'm afraid. He has tendered his resignation and the NEC have refused to accept it, shame you can't grasp it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Oh Gordon, don't stop him!Stop me from teaching you about how resignation works? We just have a difference of opinion. There's no need to take offence, after all it isn't exactly earth shattering if he stays or goes. Its just odd how kippers have a blind spot for Nigel but would rip any other politician to sheds if they did the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margun Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 Perhaps you all mistook his "resign" for "re-sign"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 He has tendered his resignation and the NEC have refused to accept it, shame you can't grasp it! I think my point is, it makes no difference at all if the NEC refuse to accept it, they cannot stop him if he wants to leave, they have no power, legal or otherwise, other than to bow, beg and plead for him to stay - which they did and he changed his mind. It really is as black and white as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Stop me from teaching you about how resignation works? We just have a difference of opinion. There's no need to take offence, after all it isn't exactly earth shattering if he stays or goes. Its just odd how kippers have a blind spot for Nigel but would rip any other politician to sheds if they did the same. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Mr Farage, I feel it a shame that UKIP polled so many votes and got so few seats. I am very glad UKIP has raised so many good points that may well have caused the Conservatives to adopt some new policies. I got exactly what I wanted last Thursday. I fully understand how resignation works and wonder why you cannot accept what happened rather than attempt to make him out to be a fraud. I have not taken offence, I just wonder why you are being so stubborn in not accepting what has happened. Edited May 11, 2015 by TIGHTCHOKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 I still can't understand why some are sticking the boot into UKIP. They obviously have a lot of support in the country, albeit that doesn't translate in to seats. Cheap shots about a one trick pony, are just that - cheap shots with nothing behind them. The public Voted, the conservatives won a majority...get over it... Outside of the Purple tinged glasses brigade..Farage has just lost any credibility he had...that makes him just the same as all the rest. He is obviously a man of very little principle. Oh and by the way read 60 odd pages of the Vote UKIP thread and you will see why some are putting the boot in, and perhaps deservedly so. Not me I might add... I love Nige...he's a good source of tax free income and much more to come too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Fisherman Mike - I honestly thought the Tories would get an overall majority, before polling day. The minute Nicola Sturgeon started spouting "Stronger for Scotland", I knew Labour were doomed. I don't need to get over it - nothing to get over. The public voted. I don't need pointing in the direction of 60 pages. I see patronising is still in fashion in some parts of the UK. Edited May 11, 2015 by Gordon R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 So if I resign at work and my employer refuses to accept it I have to continue to come into work every day? Against my free will? Of course not. And if he wanted to go he would have gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Tightchoke, I fully understand your first bit and in somes ways agree, but the 'resignation' is open to interpretation as technically he appeared to resign for 3 days but he is still in the job and is going nowhere - but more than that it wasn't in the spirit of the promise he made. In some ways I would be sorry to see him go, but I never really thought he go through with it anyway. Edited May 11, 2015 by FalconFN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) So if I resign at work and my employer refuses to accept it I have to continue to come into work every day? Against my free will? Of course not. And if he wanted to go he would have gone. Oh you too. Can you not read the press articles? " Nigel Farage has had his resignation as Ukip leader rejected by the party's national executive committee and he remains as leader, the party has said in a statement. Farage had promised to step down as leader if he lost the race to be elected MP for Thanet South. Which he did. Announcing his decision to quit on Friday morning, he said: "I'm a man of my word". However in an extraordinary move, today Ukip chairman Steve Crowther said the party's national executive committee (NEC) believed the election campaign had been a "great success" and said members of the committee "unanimously" rejected Farage's letter of resignation. Crowther said: "As promised, Nigel Farage tendered his official resignation as leader of Ukip to the NEC. This offer was unanimously rejected by the NEC members, who produced overwhelmingly evidence that the Ukip membership did not want Nigel to go." Farage's resignation had already been made fun of, given he left open the possibility he would run for the position of leader in the summer after a holiday. And far from taking a break, the Ukip figurehead popped up all over television, including the BBC and Sky News, on Monday morning to comment on the election from Westminster. Before the election, Farage wrote in his book that it was "frankly just not credible for me to continue to lead the party without a Westminster seat". “What credibility would Ukip have in the Commons if others had to enunciate party policy in Parliament and the party leader was only allowed in as a guest?" he said. "Was I supposed to brief Ukip policy from the Westminster Arms? No – if I fail to win South Thanet, it is curtains for me. I will have to step down." Farage has recommended that Suzanne Evans, the deputy chairman, should take over until a contest is held in September. She tweeted following the news: "Very pleased @Nigel_Farage still at the helm. As stated previously, I tried to persuade him to stay and was never actually appointed leader!" Edited May 11, 2015 by TIGHTCHOKE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achosenman Posted May 11, 2015 Report Share Posted May 11, 2015 So sticking the boot in to the conservatives is fair game, (plum gob) the same treatment for Labour, all from ardent UKIP supporters. Someone points out UKIP are no different, the sound of teddy's hitting the floorboards is deafening. 😆 Atb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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