Advice sought from any 'private landlords' Please

[Mungler]

in answer too your questions,,,

 

can she spring an inspection at such short notice ?,, answer is yes

 

**The landlord can make a 'request' in writing and on 24 hours notice but if the tenant refuses access or has changed the locks a landlord can't force entry. You'll need a Court Order.**

 

 

does she have a right to demand a set of keys ? answer is yes

 

**You can include a provision in the AST for keys to be provided to the landlord but if the tenants says 'no' or provides duff keys or changes the locks (which they are allowed to do) the very next day and doesn't offer up keys then what is the landlord going to do? Change the locks? Force entry? No, nothing to do without a Court Order.**

 

 

you have stated " does she have a right to demand a set of keys to what is 'Our Home' albeit in her property " you answered your own question, "its her property

 

she can enter her property at anytime she wishes "with prior given notice" and without notice but only if it was in the original tenancy agreement and/or she suspects a wrongdoing is happening ie selling/using drugs etc,

 

**You can put what you like in your ASTs but it doesn't make it lawful or legally enforceable.

 

The unilateral self appointed right of a landlord to gain immediate access should the landlord alone merely suspect a nefarious activity? That's a new one for my special list of made up BS put into domestic ASTs by landlords and letting agents who reckon they know best.

 

Moreover, unlawfully gaining access to a tenant's property leaves a landlord wide open to 'and after he left I noticed my wallet was missing'.

 

The best lies are half truth and half fiction. The truth is the landlord shouldn't have been there in the first place and the fiction that follows is whatever the tenant wants it to be.**

 

 

you need to read the original tenancy agreement as it should be written in there,,,also get a new tenancy agreement written up, because you have rights also,

 

in our tenancy agreements that we hand out ,,we always state that we can enter the property at anytime without prior arrangement if we suspect any wrongdoing, we also state if locks are changed a spare set MUST be given to us for security/fire reasons

 

good luck and if you have nothing to hide then don't worry

 

atb Evo

Edited May 27, 2015 by Mungler

[evo]

To put it bluntly, you're wrong on, I think without exception, every point.

 

The landlord doesn't have a right to keys, nor can the tenant be requested not to change the locks

 

Written notice can still be over turned by tenant if their reasoning is fair

 

Checking the property on a weekly basis is in direct opposition to allowing "quiet enjoyment" as per HA

 

Most of what you have decided to write into your contracts goes against the HA and isn't worth the ink it's written in.

 

Landlords seem to think whatever they write into a TA is fine, but ultimately statute is paramount.

 

You are allowed to choose tenants based on receiving benefits, assuming you are a landlord and not an agency

 

I've taken the time to read your points, but again, my years in lettings tells me you're still wrong.

 

Sorry mate.

 

Edited to add - It's interesting the people on here who think that because they own the house they have a given right to have keys or enter whenever they like. I often wonder if these people have a mortgage and wouldn't mind finding their bank manager coming round to check how the house looks whenever they choose, or their car on finance and the finance company having keys to just run it round the block a few times whilst they are at work

firstly it is not a house,, it is bedsits above our pub, we have a cleaner in every morning also we have key because we need to enter the premises on a daily basis, and also we inspect the property on a weekly basis, we do not enter their private rooms without their consent but 99% of the time there is never a problem us entering anyway as we only let them out to people we know well,

[Mungler]

Properties let on licenses where the owner landlord is in occupation and there is no exclusive possession conferred on the occupier is a different kettle of fish altogether.

[LondonLuke]

firstly it is not a house,, it is bedsits above our pub, we have a cleaner in every morning also we have key because we need to enter the premises on a daily basis, and also we inspect the property on a weekly basis, we do not enter their private rooms without their consent but 99% of the time there is never a problem us entering anyway as we only let them out to people we know well,

The fact it's above a pub may change things if you live in the pub as any shared areas would then be an AST outside of the HA - Mungler will advise better but I would hope you have made the required adaptions to your TA to cover this if so.

 

I'm intrigued that you only let to people you know well but also feel the need to check on them weekly

Edited May 27, 2015 by LondonLuke

[zipdog]

Properties let on licenses where the owner landlord is in occupation and there is no exclusive possession conferred on the occupier is a different kettle of fish altogether.

 

Spot on, the situation in hand is a lease not a licence, and unlike Evo, the landlord in question is not providing a service. Therefore the rights of entry are reduced.

[ph5172]

If i were you i would listen to Mungler s advice and direction.

 

 

For an easy life - as you are doing - I would personally let her in (give her a set of keys if it pleases her (i would then change the lock again or show her they key working then do a key swap with another random key before she left), chat to her about a few bits and bobs that need doing then carry on with my life.

 

Sometimes it is just easier to play the game for the sake of an hour of inconvenience - as i am sure moving 2+ years worth of possessions is a lot more agro

Edited May 28, 2015 by ph5172

[keg]

I have met TD ( Neil) at his house and he is a model tenant ( And a top chap too!)

[TaxiDriver]

I have met TD ( Neil) at his house and he is a model tenant ( And a top chap too!)

Aww stop it, ....... yer making me blush.

 

Landlady has been, was here for about an hour tops,

She had a cursory look around, asked if anything needed doing, and about the domestic appliances (still working / need changing?)

We asked about decorating and the aforementioned minor alterations that we might like to do,

And basically, we're going to work it out between us to replace the cooker hob and oven, have the worn out laminate in the kitchen replaced with tiles, at her expense, We can buy a couple of internal doors that we like and she'll pay for getting them hung and decorating wise we can do pretty much what we want.

Ohh and I helped her get what she wanted out of the loft and gave her a set of keys,

She's told us she's very happy with us as tenants, and asked us if we'd like to buy or continue renting, Sadly buying isn't an option as we can't get a mortgage, so she's happy to continue renting to us as long as we want to stay on..

She doesn't want to raise the rent to the going rate as she doesn't want to force us out, and values us as problem free tenants

 

All in all,

a right good result all round we feel

Edited May 28, 2015 by TaxiDriver

[spinach]

Sounds like you caught her on a bad day. Glad it worked out. The keys thing can throw landlords out as they feel locked out of there property especially if private landlord if she had used an agency they would have stated three sets of current keys.

Hope the redecorating goes well and house prices drop so you can get a mortgage.

John.

[mel b3]

Aww stop it, ....... yer making me blush.

 

Landlady has been, was here for about an hour tops,

She had a cursory look around, asked if anything needed doing, and about the domestic appliances (still working / need changing?)

We asked about decorating and the aforementioned minor alterations that we might like to do,

And basically, we're going to work it out between us to replace the cooker hob and oven, have the worn out laminate in the kitchen replaced with tiles, at her expense, We can buy a couple of internal doors that we like and she'll pay for getting them hung and decorating wise we can do pretty much what we want.

Ohh and I helped her get what she wanted out of the loft and gave her a set of keys,

She's told us she's very happy with us as tenants, and asked us if we'd like to buy or continue renting, Sadly buying isn't an option as we can't get a mortgage, so she's happy to continue renting to us as long as we want to stay on..

She doesn't want to raise the rent to the going rate as she doesn't want to force us out, and values us as problem free tenants

 

All in all,

a right good result all round we feel

absolutely top result all round

[welshwarrior]

If you like it there smooth ride is good for both I can inspect my house with written 24 hours notice only done it once bumped into them walking the dog, was invited around for a coffee. House was in good order, they asked if they could have a dog I said yes. All happy send them a christmascard each year job done.

 

I've had bad tenants before and I inspected the house even month after 2 month to the 6 month point where I got rid.

 

I have a spare set of keys, and insist on having a set, for my peace of mind, my FIL keeps an eye on the place if the tenants tell us they are away for a while.

 

Good tenants are hard to find as a nice houses, a little give and take.

[overandunder2012]

 

 

 

For an easy life - as you are doing - I would personally let her in (give her a set of keys if it pleases her (i would then change the lock again or show her they key working then do a key swap with another random key before she left),

another guy who wouldn't be my tenant for long

[keg]

Aww stop it, ....... yer making me blush.

 

Landlady has been, was here for about an hour tops,

She had a cursory look around, asked if anything needed doing, and about the domestic appliances (still working / need changing?)

We asked about decorating and the aforementioned minor alterations that we might like to do,

And basically, we're going to work it out between us to replace the cooker hob and oven, have the worn out laminate in the kitchen replaced with tiles, at her expense, We can buy a couple of internal doors that we like and she'll pay for getting them hung and decorating wise we can do pretty much what we want.

Ohh and I helped her get what she wanted out of the loft and gave her a set of keys,

She's told us she's very happy with us as tenants, and asked us if we'd like to buy or continue renting, Sadly buying isn't an option as we can't get a mortgage, so she's happy to continue renting to us as long as we want to stay on..

She doesn't want to raise the rent to the going rate as she doesn't want to force us out, and values us as problem free tenants

 

All in all,

a right good result all round we feel

Great news Neil and ok.... we can get a room

[TaxiDriver]

Great news Neil and ok.... we can get a room

It better be a laaaaaaarge double haha

[keg]

Moi Large?

 

You've been peeping again!

[welsh1]

Aww stop it, ....... yer making me blush.

 

Landlady has been, was here for about an hour tops,

She had a cursory look around, asked if anything needed doing, and about the domestic appliances (still working / need changing?)

We asked about decorating and the aforementioned minor alterations that we might like to do,

And basically, we're going to work it out between us to replace the cooker hob and oven, have the worn out laminate in the kitchen replaced with tiles, at her expense, We can buy a couple of internal doors that we like and she'll pay for getting them hung and decorating wise we can do pretty much what we want.

Ohh and I helped her get what she wanted out of the loft and gave her a set of keys,

She's told us she's very happy with us as tenants, and asked us if we'd like to buy or continue renting, Sadly buying isn't an option as we can't get a mortgage, so she's happy to continue renting to us as long as we want to stay on..

She doesn't want to raise the rent to the going rate as she doesn't want to force us out, and values us as problem free tenants

 

All in all,

a right good result all round we feel

Having met you mate i never expected any other outcome,one of life's nice guys and a gent to boot,come on down to pembs again some time ,i might have a 223 to play with