ditchman Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 For reasons best known to myself...i have puchased a completly original 2.5 Turbo-desiel landrover engine...which i will slightly modify and turn into a thing of beauty over the autumn....to replace my turbo-desiel i have in the landrover now which is a mishmash of different engines from a sherpa van and london taxi.....i love these engines whereas every body else hates them with a passion... i will be posting my progress over the next few weeks ....all much to your great amusement.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Will be watching you all the way ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 is the oil not meant to be on the inside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Why o why? The 200 really is that much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 this is my present turbo-deseil.....i gave it a partial re-build 68,000 miles ago and has never failed me....but i can make it even better by doing what landrover should have done to the engine in the first place....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Wish mine was that clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) Why o why? The 200 really is that much better impossible to get hold of and ORIGINAL DEFENDER 200 TDI ...unless you have a spare £1000.00.............i havnt and want to keep it original ...thats my perversness..!! this one cost £ 30.00 Edited September 10, 2015 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 impossible to get hold of and ORIGINAL DEFENDER 200 TDI ...unless you have a spare £1000.00.............i havnt and want to keep it original ...thats my perversness..!! this one cost £ 30.00 Originality ok yeah I can see that So what's the plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Originality ok yeah I can see that So what's the plan? Firstly............what you say is right.....when the 200 tdi first came out ... the Govt bought 6 of them for me in Tanzania....i was told to look after them but WRAG" THEM ...WHICH I DID FOR 2 YEARS........they never missed a beat...top engine ...still prefere them to the 300 which pulls like a train Turbo-deseil...................the block goes to Briston near cromer...with the new pistons to be bored 20thou oversize...and pistons will be marked for each cylinder.....teflon coated crowns......check balance on crank/flywheel........i will rebuild head completely...high temp valves new springs new seats...cut and rubbed in ....new hot spot inserts...injector shouds blah blah blah... front crankshaft seal modified....new shells main....conrods............you get the idea the list goes on............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinw Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Whitmores will be rubbing their hands lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Firstly............what you say is right.....when the 200 tdi first came out ... the Govt bought 6 of them for me in Tanzania....i was told to look after them but WRAG" THEM ...WHICH I DID FOR 2 YEARS........they never missed a beat...top engine ...still prefere them to the 300 which pulls like a train Turbo-deseil...................the block goes to Briston near cromer...with the new pistons to be bored 20thou oversize...and pistons will be marked for each cylinder.....teflon coated crowns......check balance on crank/flywheel........i will rebuild head completely...high temp valves new springs new seats...cut and rubbed in ....new hot spot inserts...injector shouds blah blah blah... front crankshaft seal modified....new shells main....conrods............you get the idea the list goes on............. That's a lot of expense for a boat anchor 300 every time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Firstly............what you say is right.....when the 200 tdi first came out ... the Govt bought 6 of them for me in Tanzania....i was told to look after them but WRAG" THEM ...WHICH I DID FOR 2 YEARS........they never missed a beat...top engine ...still prefere them to the 300 which pulls like a train Turbo-deseil...................the block goes to Briston near cromer...with the new pistons to be bored 20thou oversize...and pistons will be marked for each cylinder.....teflon coated crowns......check balance on crank/flywheel........i will rebuild head completely...high temp valves new springs new seats...cut and rubbed in ....new hot spot inserts...injector shouds blah blah blah... front crankshaft seal modified....new shells main....conrods............you get the idea the list goes on............. Ok but there's possibly better stuff than Teflon, I take it your trying to reduce thermal loading of the piston crown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Whitmores will be rubbing their hands lol To bore out .....hone... match pistons to bores....supply running in oil...bored out by 20thou.... providing i strip and deliver the block ...including VAT £ 128.00 not bad eh ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Highly technical stuff again. I have difficulty extending my hide poles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Ok but there's possibly better stuff than Teflon, I take it your trying to reduce thermal loading of the piston crown? The first TD's didnt have coated pistons and didnt have high temp valves...the pistons got holes burnt in them then they went into "overun"...so they fitted them with coated pistons....the engine still breathed heavt because of the higher compression and poor piston to bore fit.............. ditchman likes a challenge.....(on a budget) Highly technical stuff again. I have difficulty extending my hide poles. i have no trouble extending my hide pole for an early morning shoot ............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Whop a 3508 in ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 The first TD's didnt have coated pistons and didnt have high temp valves...the pistons got holes burnt in them then they went into "overun"...so they fitted them with coated pistons....the engine still breathed heavt because of the higher compression and poor piston to bore fit.............. ditchman likes a challenge.....(on a budget) i have no trouble extending my hide pole for an early morning shoot ............... It's possible the bore tolerance could be cut further, if you can reduce the thermal loading of the piston then the piston will expand less and in a more controlled way, so the machining tolerances can be improved. All this was employed in the late 70's and 80' racing two strokes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 It's possible the bore tolerance could be cut further, if you can reduce the thermal loading of the piston then the piston will expand less and in a more controlled way, so the machining tolerances can be improved. All this was employed in the late 70's and 80' racing two strokes! Well i hope Briston will sort the job out ...he knows Turbo-deseils (l/r)...........and he says providing i run it in for 500 miles it wont give any further problem............ found out why it was squirting oil out will post a picture later....have started on the stripdown and primary cleaning........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Whop a 3508 in ditchman i think a 3206 would fit !....saw one a long while ago all in white.....ready to go in a boat !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Found one of the reasons the turbo-deseil started to use loads of oil.............the oil feed pipe to the injector pump was passed its best !!! pictures of stuff coming off the engine this morning after their first clean.......my "so called mates " didnt turn up last night to help me unload the engine so i had to start stripping it down in the damn trailer....i so wanted it on the engine table and power wash it prior to stripping....now im covered in cack...and my testicles are in a wheelbarrow....christ that engine must weigh a quarter of a ton.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redditch Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 You are going to modify it to be reliable and economical ? Hhhh, going to fit Nissan parts ? LOL, couldn't resist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) You are going to modify it to be reliable and economical ? Hhhh, going to fit Nissan parts ? LOL, couldn't resist eat poo and die......................... when your nissan rots and coughs its last....whats left they will melt down and make the odd nut and bolt for mine.................. Edited September 11, 2015 by ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiebald Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 great work! looking forwards to following this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 great work! looking forwards to following this! thank you..................................im expecting plenty of abuse.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Looking good mate, keep them pics coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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