krowe79 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 All the walls in side my burner or all broke and are ready to fall to bits is there any over product I can use was thinking if getting some metal sheet cut to size but not sure if it would work any one have this problem ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 use kiln lining...you will have to cut them...or 3/4" steel plate cut to fit..........if you use thin plate it wont last a mth............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Do you have fire bricks in your log burner ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krowe79 Posted October 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 All the walls and and top are made off fire brick but it's one peace not load off bricks more like a board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krowe79 Posted October 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 The iner roof part has just caved in with the fire lit is it still safe ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 You can normally buy the linings no problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 You can buy replacement fire bricks easily, and are normally just slot in. I did ours a few weeks ago, I bought from this firm : http://www.aradastovesandspares.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 The iner roof part has just caved in with the fire lit is it still safe ? Are you sure it's the burner?Sounds more like your chimney liner to me that's falling down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marki Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 None of the burners I've owned have had firebricks on the top? Most seem to have a big baffle plate there. Firebricks don't last forever so it just seems to be poorly designed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 None of the burners I've owned have had firebricks on the top? Most seem to have a big baffle plate there. Firebricks don't last forever so it just seems to be poorly designed. That's why it sounds like the render in the chimneys coming down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marki Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 That's why it sounds like the render in the chimneys coming down. I'd be worried if that was happening. I think krowe79 needs to have a poke around with a big torch to see what is going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 A few do have baffle plates on the top, I have a Hunter Herald 8 and I replaced the brick baffle with a steel plate because i kept knocking it when putting logs in and got fed up with replacing it. I would not recommend using it without, all you will be doing is heating your village as the heat will go straight up the chimney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmytree Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 I refurbished a morso last year, new firebrick sides and a new steel baffle plate and grate bars, glass and seals. Firing without firebricks or baffle plate can totally stuff up your logburner leading to cracking and splitting. It's there for a reason, to protect the cast iron from excessive heat. Don't use it! Search online and you can find pattern parts much cheaper than originals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 I refurbished a morso last year, new firebrick sides and a new steel baffle plate and grate bars, glass and seals. Firing without firebricks or baffle plate can totally stuff up your logburner leading to cracking and splitting. It's there for a reason, to protect the cast iron from excessive heat. Don't use it!Search online and you can find pattern parts much cheaper than originals. I saw a wood burner that had been used without fire bricks and it was totally wrecked. Some of the panels were buckled and split by the heat. The unit had been a good unit and had a back boiler on it but the bricks had cracked and the owner had decided to take the remaining bricks out. The splits were so bad that smoke and flames were coming out from the cracks and filling the house with smoke and fumes.the people in the house could have been killed by carbon monoxide poisoning. if only the bricks had been replaced the unit wouldn't have had to be replaced costing a lot of money and having to get the plumbing work done as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver90owner Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 They did not fit a lining for no good reason, several being exampled above. Destruction of the unit, leakage of gases of combustion, warping of plates, danger of combusting materials much further away than the recommended safety instructions, etc.. Fire bricks are produced with different properties - insulation, resistance to chemical attack, strength - so fit the right type with the correct expansion clearances. The insulation is also important, particularly with a wood burner, to maintain the firebox temperature high enough to achieve complete combustion - rather than destructive distillation which would mean condensation in the chimney with subsequent increased risk of chimney fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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