kody Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Been using a yildiz 410 half and full choke not dropping much at all only the odd winger even at ranges 20yds could it be to tight pattens or rubbish patterns 14grm 6s and 7s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dob Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I got same chokes and use 18gm 3. Inch shells size 6 shot and will drop birds up to 30 yards . What make carts u using ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kody Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I got same chokes and use 18gm 3. Inch shells size 6 shot and will drop birds up to 30 yards . What make carts u using ? Eley and express have you tried the 3inch subsonic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dob Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 No,I use the lylvale shells and they seem fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Pattern the gun to check spread, pattern and accuracy, but at 14g load the largest pellet I would be using would be No7 1/2 or 8's and limiting range to 30 yards max. Either that or go up to 18g No7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kody Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Pattern the gun to check spread, pattern and accuracy, but at 14g load the largest pellet I would be using would be No7 1/2 or 8's and limiting range to 30 yards max. Either that or go up to 18g No7. Ok thanks for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Could be were it's shooting to were your looking ie gunfit Most miss range stuff I say this because at 20 yards just about any shell will work from a 410 if you put the pattern it produces in the right spot Choke? Shouldn't be an issue imo not least if it's pointing in the right place. Something to consider if your not getting enough strikes and pricking stuff or blasting the heck out of stuff Try some shots off the mount and see exactly were that 14 grm is going I 200% promise you 14 grm of 7 will kill the life out of hares and the biggest toughest cock at 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kody Posted December 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Could be were it's shooting to were your looking ie gunfit Most miss range stuff I say this because at 20 yards just about any shell will work from a 410 if you put the pattern it produces in the right spot Choke? Shouldn't be an issue imo not least if it's pointing in the right place. Something to consider if your not getting enough strikes and pricking stuff or blasting the heck out of stuff Try some shots off the mount and see exactly were that 14 grm is going I 200% promise you 14 grm of 7 will kill the life out of hares and the biggest toughest cock at 20 Thanks will do some pattern tests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 The lead is the same so is the velocity, only difference in 410 is number of pellets, Killing range of single pellet is also the same as 12g just not as many multiple hits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Brian Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 The Yildiz .410 is a very light gun and very easy to stop swinging with. If that is the case you may just be catching the birds on the edge of the pattern resulting in a lot of winging. The lack of pellets in the load will only make it worse. 7's or 7 1/2's should work well at sensible ranges. As already said check gun fit and patterning. After that go and have a few rounds of skeet and see what is going on with moving targets. Keep at it- .410s are great fun. Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Sound like your missing to me. The reason for you missing I can't help you with unless I see you shoot Id recommend getting someone who knows what their talking about to watch you shoot a bit ideally at clays if your local to me I'd happily have look for you in the New Year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 The Yildiz .410 is a very light gun and very easy to stop swinging with. If that is the case you may just be catching the birds on the edge of the pattern resulting in a lot of winging. The lack of pellets in the load will only make it worse. 7's or 7 1/2's should work well at sensible ranges. As already said check gun fit and patterning. After that go and have a few rounds of skeet and see what is going on with moving targets. Keep at it- .410s are great fun. Brian I agree. I would say the op is hitting birds with the outside of the pattern. A 12 is a lot more forgiving in this regard. Try some skeet. My first round with my Yildiz gave me a satisfying 21/25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 well its 1 of 3 things; 1.the gun 2.the cartridge 3.the bloke holding the gun. if I were a bookmaker you could name your price on 1 and 2......... agree with Motty a round of skeet will see you right...410s are the hardest things to shoot with,little margin/little wavey wands if you're used to a bigger/heavier gun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 I don't see a 410 as much harder to shoot with within its patterning limitations range wise and we are talking 20 yards are we how much bigger in diameter is a 12 or 20 of similar choke at that range Light often means fast if you doubt that try walking up snipe with a big bore double gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 I read OPs post as missing lots 'even those at 20 yards'...I can only speak personally but of all the shotguns I have the 410s are the hardest to shoot well with whether that be clays or pigeons...I was not questioning its ability to kill at 20 yards,and agree it is light/fast.....which if not used to is I think the main reason it is tricky to shoot well with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kody Posted December 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Good comments fellers I will pattern it first then go from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 I found 1/4 choke best in .410 with fiocchi magnum 19g no6 or preferably no7, I personally think tight chokes are a .410's worst enemy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 You want a 3" shell. I used express 7's for a lot of game. Taken everything from grouse and hare,(20yards) with the .410 and they're great if you point them in the right place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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