Vehicles in floods

[felly100]

 

I think we all know the flooding situation is dire in some parts of the country, but that is just a big puddle, gardens/houses seem clear to me and if someone have simply bug a small calvert in the field I'd guess much of that would have simply disappeared in the road drains!

What happens when the drains are full to capacity?

[Dekers]

What happens when the drains are full to capacity?

 

......and what happens if it rains for the next 40 days and forty nights, the world is full of what ifs. The point I was making is that was a poor example, the houses, gardens and from what I can see the road as well are not flooded, the water in that puddle could have easily been dispersed in the road drains as it developed had it been culverted to the road, from what is visible in the picture.

[felly100]

I didn't say what if,I said what do you do 'when" it happens.

[Dougy]

Some people wont see the water for the floods.

What will it take for some folk to understand, let me put it in extreme terms, Build on every bit of land, and I mean every bit ! all over the country and please explain where you plan to put the water, and forget the drains and the ditches being built and clear.

Water will not soak into concrete we use it for building purposes because of that very reason. Build on flood plains and where does the water go, we just pass it on further down the river, stream culvert call it what you will.

 

" Archimedes"

Edited December 27, 2015 by Dougy

[felly100]

We're screwed?

[guest1957]

To be fair, in some (lots) situations common sense is now legislated out.

Please elaborate?

[7daysinaweek]

where i have lived for the last 46 years never known flooding, we are very fortunate in liverpool that from a flood risk we do not have many river systems obviously excluding the Mersey. however one river which is about half mile away from me the river Alt has flooded several times over the years had some flood defences updated several years ago, however some of the lower lying areas of this river have been known to flood slightly. that said was driving around outer parts of liverpool in work last night and came across about 10 road closures all due to low level flooding, absolutely nothing in comparison to those poor individuals and businessess a little further up north from us, heart goes out to them!

[Dougy]

We're screwed?

 

Archimedes,

 

He was the chap that realised that water was displaced from the bath when he got in it, causing a flood on his laminate flooring. And how many years ago was that and some folk still haven't learnt from that. (not you felly100, I let you off)

 

And the screw too, but I was referring to the bath tub

Edited December 27, 2015 by Dougy

[7daysinaweek]

I didn't say what if,I said what do you do 'when" it happens.

 

Some people wont see the water for the floods.

What will it take for some folk to understand, let me put it in extreme terms, Build on every bit of land, and I mean every bit ! all over the country and please explain where you plan to put the water, and forget the drains and the ditches being built and clear.

Water will not soak into concrete we use it for building purposes because of that very reason. Build on flood plains and where does the water go, we just pass it on further down the river, stream culvert call it what you will.

 

" Archimedes"

"Eureka, eureka"

Edited December 27, 2015 by 7daysinaweek

[rodp]

Please elaborate?

As mentioned elsewhere, in the Somerset levels can't dredge because of newts, can't pile the dredge on the banks because the eu say it has to be treated ? Is that common sense? Shame for the newts but common sense says they're not too high on the priority list. Same with the muck off the riverbed, it was used as embankments for years, now it's legislated out?

[7daysinaweek]

As mentioned elsewhere, in the Somerset levels can't dredge because of newts, can't pile the dredge on the banks because the eu say it has to be treated ? Is that common sense? Shame for the newts but common sense says they're not too high on the priority list. Same with the muck off the riverbed, it was used as embankments for years, now it's legislated out?

could it be possible that maybe something to do with carbon release from dredged mud/silt, just plant a tree for every 10 ton dredged, easy peasy! dont know could be anything.

[Scully]

i recall the one and only time in my lifetime so far our town river being dredged; I was about 11. There is so much rubble and sediment in the river and stream bottoms now, washed down from the Fells.

As an aside, just think of all that potential power that has been wasted; the force of all that water over the last couple of months must be phenomenal. All gone; literally washed out to sea.

Edited December 27, 2015 by Scully

[rjimmer]

When I see TV footage of red-roofed homes built on the side of hills in foreign countries, I often wonder what would be said if a developer applied to build in such areas in this country.

[rjimmer]

To be fair, in some (lots) situations common sense is now legislated out.

By people who think they are clever because they have and 'ology'.

[Gordon R]

Dekers - you may well be right. The field in question tends to be a puddle frequently. Locals have just "Facebooked" this because of the recent floods. Proper drainage might well solve this one.

[7daysinaweek]

By people who think they are clever because they have and 'ology'.

You get an ology — you're a scientist!

[rodp]

Doesn't an ology make you an academic, not necessarily clever ??

[rjimmer]

Doesn't an ology make you an academic, not necessarily clever ??

Exactly!!!!!!!

[Gordon R]

Dekers - Whalley - near Blackburn. Might need a slightly bigger drain.

Edited December 27, 2015 by Gordon R

[Dekers]

Dekers - Whalley - near Blackburn. Might need a slightly bigger drain.

 

 

It may well indeed, but the technology is there.

 

In around 1961 they drained a lake opposite where I lived at the time, I watched them do it and collected muscle shells etc from the bog it left. a couple of years later and having diverted the stream that fed it, houses were built on the lake bed. It has never flooded or even got damp since.

 

[Dekers]

I didn't say what if,I said what do you do 'when" it happens.

 

 

Where planners have failed or in conditions of EXTREME weather you are stuffed, but the picture was a big puddle, and as the weather had been atrocious apparently in the area, and 3 events virtually non stop, I'd say a puddle in a field is a decent result rather than a failure.

 

[Dekers]

Some people wont see the water for the floods.

What will it take for some folk to understand, let me put it in extreme terms, Build on every bit of land, and I mean every bit ! all over the country and please explain where you plan to put the water, and forget the drains and the ditches being built and clear.

Water will not soak into concrete we use it for building purposes because of that very reason. Build on flood plains and where does the water go, we just pass it on further down the river, stream culvert call it what you will.

 

" Archimedes"

 

 

 

There is only so much water in the world, in simple terms it is picked up and then distributed by the skys. It the UK was a solid concrete block then a drainage system on a scale never considered possible would need to be installed or we would be heading into Waterworld.

 

I don't actually see anyone arguing with that, but I fail to see the connection to a puddle in a field after some of the most horrendous rain ever seen in an area, virtually non stop for 3 weeks.

 

[old man]

All about money?

Council Tax?

Government turn off subsidies and demolish planning regulations?

 

Oops!

[coldweld]

Dekers - Whalley - near Blackburn. Might need a slightly bigger drain.

Looks like photo-shop tec to me ! That sign looks all wrong perspectively and too clean with no add for the Developer

[rodp]

Dekers - Whalley - near Blackburn. Might need a slightly bigger drain.

House boats ??