wisdom Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Are these choke gauges the pop in the barrel any good.I have 1 gun I've had for years and don't know what it's chokes are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyeruk Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I have just purchased a brass, bisley choke gauge. I tested it with my Winchester chokes and it gives true readings. I got one as i now have an old SxS and just wanted to check it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 90 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 The only way to gauge chokes properly/accurately is to measure the bores, then the chokes, the difference will tell you what constrictions you actually have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 The only way to gauge chokes properly/accurately is to measure the bores, then the chokes, the difference will tell you what constrictions you actually have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted January 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 The only way to gauge chokes properly/accurately is to measure the bores, then the chokes, the difference will tell you what constrictions you actually have I'm guessing it would be an expensive piece of kit for taking those measurements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 take it to a smith and he will do it for nothing ...maybe.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Choke gauges are as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Inaccurate and a complete waste of time. They are up there with snap caps - in a competition for the most useless accessory of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Are these choke gauges the pop in the barrel any good.I have 1 gun I've had for years and don't know what it's chokes are. Is it purely out of curiosity? Do you shoot well enough with the gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted January 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Just curiosity.Shoot pretty well with it.much the same as all the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAoS Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Choke gauges are as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Inaccurate and a complete waste of time. This. If you place one of these into an Ithaca 12 bore M37 DSPS barrel, it'll show the barrel as being "full" choke. In fact, they are "true cylinder". The DSPS barrels are for slug shooting and are bored at .690". (Or was it .700"?) As someone has said, it's the *constriction* that is important, not the absolute size of the bore at the muzzle. Regards, Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Choke gauges are as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Inaccurate and a complete waste of time. They are up there with snap caps - in a competition for the most useless accessory of all time. Amen to that Gordon. I have just purchased a brass, bisley choke gauge. I tested it with my Winchester chokes and it gives true readings. I got one as i now have an old SxS and just wanted to check it. Your Winchester chokes were marked at manufacture before they ever got near your gun. This. If you place one of these into an Ithaca 12 bore M37 DSPS barrel, it'll show the barrel as being "full" choke. In fact, they are "true cylinder". The DSPS barrels are for slug shooting and are bored at .690". (Or was it .700"?) As someone has said, it's the *constriction* that is important, not the absolute size of the bore at the muzzle. Regards, Mark. I believe you are correct with the .690" bore diameter. These pointless items are making someone a lot of money! As has been stated, the ONLY way to work out what constriction your chokes are is to measure them accurately and then compare that measurement to the actual bore size of your weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 ChAos - that is scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAoS Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 ChAos - that is scary. I what way, guv? Regards, Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyeruk Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Choke gauges are as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Inaccurate and a complete waste of time. They are up there with snap caps - in a competition for the most useless accessory of all time. Ok,can you explain this. I have a 1982,Breda o/u which is fixed choke,1/2 and full,as confirmed by a gunsmith. My chocolate Bisley choke gauge reads 1/2 and full. I also have a 1924 G&S Holloway,fixed choke,1/4 and 1/2,as just confirmed by a gunsmith. My chocolate Bisley choke gauge reads, 1/4 and 1/2. My Winchester SX3,has multi chokes,as marked on the chokes,imp cylinder.modified and full.My chocolate Bisley choke gauge reads, imp cylinder,modified and full. Now,if its as useless as a chocolate teapot,what am i missing?? It might not read it as accurately as my gunsmiths choke gauges,but thats good enough for me,and probably the majority of sports shooters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyeruk Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Sorry,meant chocolate fireguard not teapot!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) ChAos - it is worrying that a choke gauge can be that far out. Obviously flyeruk has a rare set of guns which actually fit his gauge. flyeruk - your gauge only measures what is at the end of the barrel, not the bore. Choke is a constriction compared to the actual bore of the gun. Many guns have different bores, whilst all nominally being 12 gauge. They are of interest to some, but are not a serious measuring device. If you take comfort from having one - good luck. If you are so confident that the gauges are accurate - why get a gunsmith to check? If he is a proper gunsmith, he should have told you that they are a novelty item. Most shooters get the fixed chokes measured at the shop, when they buy the gun. Multi-chokes have the constriction stamped on them. People who buy choke gauges seem to be the same people who buy snap caps. Edited January 11, 2016 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyeruk Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 I had SxS checked as it was in for a service a couple of days ago. He is a well established gunsmith,but you obviously know more than him. As to a rare set of guns,i just think that shows you cant answer the question as to why they fit.I dont think a Winchester sx3 is a rare gun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) Seriously, choke gauges ARE a waste of time. I had SxS checked as it was in for a service a couple of days ago. He is a well established gunsmith,but you obviously know more than him. As to a rare set of guns,i just think that shows you cant answer the question as to why they fit.I dont think a Winchester sx3 is a rare gun! Edited January 11, 2016 by motty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 I have just checked my beretta chokes with a brass choke gauge and it reads exactly the same as the choke markings.These are extended optima chokes and the same chokes fit in my dt10 my 687eell and my gold e.So they must be somewhere near the mark for giving a general guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 He is a well established gunsmith,but you obviously know more than him. Judging by his lack of advice about the scientific usage of choke gauges - I do. It's not rocket science. They work on some, but not others. If they don't work on some - how do you know which category your gun falls into? You have to get it measured properly, rendering the choke gauge surplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyeruk Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 I have just checked my beretta chokes with a brass choke gauge and it reads exactly the same as the choke markings.These are extended optima chokes and the same chokes fit in my dt10 my 687eell and my gold e.So they must be somewhere near the mark for giving a general guide. Well,thats two of us that it works for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyeruk Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Judging by his lack of advice about the scientific usage of choke gauges - I do. It's not rocket science. They work on some, but not others. If they don't work on some - how do you know which category your gun falls into? You have to get it measured properly, rendering the choke gauge surplus. That still does not explain why when my Winchester chokes say what sizes they are,my choke gauge confirms it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 flyeruk - random chance. Sorry, but I can't put it more simply. Choke is a degree of constriction, not a single measurement at the end of the barrel. It really isn't rocket science. Two people say it works for them, so you regard that as proof. Read through the other posts on this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyeruk Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Ok,you win,Good for a laugh though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 I have to own up - some years ago - I bought a choke gauge and snap caps. I've had some stick about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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