kory1986 Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 recent events with my wife's nut case family has made us have to contact the police on several occasions. I would like to point out that we have done nothink at all so we havnt been in trouble with the police are self's but could this still effect my FAC as this would relly be icing on the cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 i would not like to say to much as i dont know the facts , but i would take a guess and say it wont do you a lot of good if its flaged up . hope you get things sorted atb stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 If you haven't done anything wrong then you haven't got a problem. As long as you have reason to have a fac and have not been in any sort of problem especially threatening behavior and no one else has got access to the security of the weapons. no probs. whatever someone else is doing keep calm, don't get involved and keep yourself to yourself. you aren't responsible for what the world is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I have a mate under Durham licensing authority. A lad who knocks around with his son has an acquaintance who is well known to the rozzers, and the police called round at last renewal to interview his son, who also holds SGC, to ask if this lad had at any time been in his house. This wasn't the one known to police but his mate! My mate was informed in no uncertain terms that not only was his sons license at risk but also his if they received any info' that this lad was calling at his house! Not only presumed guilt by association but association thrice removed! Durham appear to be a law unto themselves with no effective opposition, but in all honesty have good reason to want to cover their ***** more than any other force presently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kory1986 Posted February 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I have a mate under Durham licensing authority. A lad who knocks around with his son has an acquaintance who is well known to the rozzers, and the police called round at last renewal to interview his son, who also holds SGC, to ask if this lad had at any time been in his house. This wasn't the one known to police but his mate! My mate was informed in no uncertain terms that not only was his sons license at risk but also his if they received any info' that this lad was calling at his house! Not only presumed guilt by association but association thrice removed! Durham appear to be a law unto themselves with no effective opposition, but in all honesty have good reason to want to cover their ***** more than any other force presently. we don't have any think to do with them but shock horror the people who do nothink wrong are the people who get punished what a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I have a mate under Durham licensing authority. A lad who knocks around with his son has an acquaintance who is well known to the rozzers, and the police called round at last renewal to interview his son, who also holds SGC, to ask if this lad had at any time been in his house. This wasn't the one known to police but his mate! My mate was informed in no uncertain terms that not only was his sons license at risk but also his if they received any info' that this lad was calling at his house! Not only presumed guilt by association but association thrice removed! Durham appear to be a law unto themselves with no effective opposition, but in all honesty have good reason to want to cover their ***** more than any other force presently. Scotland are not too dissimilar... Know of people losing FAC's/SGC's for "known association" reasons. If the intel. makes it look like the family issue could boil over at any time in the future, they may refuse on those grounds BUT Phone the FEO & have a chat, as a lot of what goes on with FEO's is a total postcode lottery - some have more logic/common sense, & use it - others have agenda's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I have a mate under Durham licensing authority. A lad who knocks around with his son has an acquaintance who is well known to the rozzers, and the police called round at last renewal to interview his son, who also holds SGC, to ask if this lad had at any time been in his house. This wasn't the one known to police but his mate! My mate was informed in no uncertain terms that not only was his sons license at risk but also his if they received any info' that this lad was calling at his house! Not only presumed guilt by association but association thrice removed! Durham appear to be a law unto themselves with no effective opposition, but in all honesty have good reason to want to cover their ***** more than any other force presently. Skully thats me,was interview twice,the 1st time they came when my son was at school so they came back on the night.They had their own gun slips and had every intension of taking both my sons FAC/SGC and my FAC/SGC along with the guns. They quoted some revoked through association ruling & BASC confirmed they where right as i phoned them between the visits.My son had to prove he didnt associate with this lad but it was a friend of a friend so to speak.All because a comnunity officer who knew my son held FAC/SGC had seen him in a group and put 2 +2 together and came up with 5. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 recent events with my wife's nut case family has made us have to contact the police on several occasions. I would like to point out that we have done nothink at all so we havnt been in trouble with the police are self's but could this still effect my FAC as this would relly be icing on the cake. SPEAK WITH BASC,before anything happens as it only takes one of her family to make an accusation of threat & if 2 if them back each other up,then its there word against yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 What do you mean by 'BASC confirmed they were right' ? Do you mean BASC confirmed Durham were entitled to revoke both yours and your sons tickets due to an assumed association with undesirables? If that's the case I'm stuffed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) What do you mean by 'BASC confirmed they were right' ? Do you mean BASC confirmed Durham were entitled to revoke both yours and your sons tickets due to an assumed association with undesirables? If that's the case I'm stuffed. Yep if they felt that we,sorry my son was associated then they could use this ruling.It has special name that i cant remember,i rang BASC firearms helpline immediatly following there 1st visit for advise as they stated that when they come back,if they are not satisfied with my sons reasons they will require access to my Guns.Maybe Dave BASC will be along shortly with the corrected name for this ruling. Edited February 11, 2016 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 What do you mean by 'BASC confirmed they were right' ? Do you mean BASC confirmed Durham were entitled to revoke both yours and your sons tickets due to an assumed association with undesirables? If that's the case I'm stuffed. I thought it was a 'mate' you were talking about. 'Known criminal associations' is the phrase, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 My shooting buddy decided that going back on the booze and sticking gunk up his nose would be more fun than shooting and, to give him a bit of credit, he did surrender his SGC and sold his guns but I did get a phone call from my FEO asking if I still had contact with him. It was made very clear to me that they wanted to make sure that he couldn't still have access to my guns and, if I did associate with him, that I may lose my FAC/SGC. I had to cut him cold. He was a decent bloke but a total **** once he started self-medicating. Very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I thought it was a 'mate' you were talking about. 'Known criminal associations' is the phrase, I think. It is; he lives in Durham; I live in another county altogether but my home town is a very small community and I can't avoid coming into contact with all those 'known to the police'. Even the Mayor has a reputation for assault and being a bully, but funnily enough no convictions and is a SGC holder. Go figure. Amongst the regulars in my pub ( whom I can bump into on a regular basis in town ) is a bloke convicted of manslaughter, various alcoholics, numerous drug users plus at least three known dealers ( two of whom are very successful local businessmen) several people with convictions for assault including ABH ( one of them bit off part of another mans ear, and when he turned up on site next day we all put on our ear defenders even though we were all on the roof fitting Velux windows! ) several terrier men with convictions for poaching and badger baiting, one of whom also has a conviction for hanging one of his own dogs. My neighbour served time in his teens for GBH and is employed by the Mayor I mentioned. It's a laugh a minute I can tell you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) It is; he lives in Durham; I live in another county altogether but my home town is a very small community and I can't avoid coming into contact with all those 'known to the police'. Even the Mayor has a reputation for assault and being a bully, but funnily enough no convictions and is a SGC holder. Go figure. Amongst the regulars in my pub ( whom I can bump into on a regular basis in town ) is a bloke convicted of manslaughter, various alcoholics, numerous drug users plus at least three known dealers ( two of whom are very successful local businessmen) several people with convictions for assault including ABH ( one of them bit off part of another mans ear, and when he turned up on site next day we all put on our ear defenders even though we were all on the roof fitting Velux windows! ) several terrier men with convictions for poaching and badger baiting, one of whom also has a conviction for hanging one of his own dogs. My neighbour served time in his teens for GBH and is employed by the Mayor I mentioned. It's a laugh a minute I can tell you! Didn't realise you were from Milom😱 Edited February 11, 2016 by Glenlivet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) Once you get your FAC,it might be worth registering them with the central armoury at work aswell that would give you a safety net should you ever need it BB Edited February 11, 2016 by Bluebarrels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) Didn't realise you were from Milom I know all of the above people personally. Edited February 11, 2016 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Times change! I never lost anything when I forcibly ejected a trespasser and got an ABH conviction 40 years ago, but someone I know, recently had his shotgun taken from him for a drink-driving first offense. He got it back at the end of the driving ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Years ago a member of our club had a lot of bother because his girlfriend's mum had a lot of previous. Don't know what the previous was or how they found out. It seems a bit random to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Kids yap and boast about guns they have seen or know about. 'Networking' is not always for the best. Put up some cameras, even if they don't work but look authentic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kory1986 Posted February 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Once you get your FAC,it might be worth registering them with the central armoury at work aswell that would give you a safety net should you ever need it BB bloody hell Mucka it's been a bloody nightmare this week I explain on duty I have higthen sercuity with putting cctv up m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Didn't realise you were from Milom I've been to Milom.... Didn't realise you were from Milom I've visited Milom.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 recent events with my wife's nut case family has made us have to contact the police on several occasions. I would like to point out that we have done nothink at all so we havnt been in trouble with the police are self's but could this still effect my FAC as this would relly be icing on the cake. Pre warn BASC, if you are a member that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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