kyska Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 No, They at first it was ulcerating, then they thought it was some sort of flesh eating thing, so they kept cutting it back to good flesh, With Pyoderma you are not supposed to debride it, The first photo was taken by the second hospital on the day of admission, That was when they talked about amputation. The first hospital took no pictures at all, when I was admitted it just looked slightly red and lumpy, if that makes sense, they then hit it with large doses of intravenous anti biotics, when that go nowhere they started to remove flesh as by then it must have looked worse, I never saw my arm from the day I was admitted to halfway through my stay in the second hospital, I wasn't really "there"..... What a mess, although I'm not into wound care, you're lucky to be alive I reckon. It looks debrided, until you said it was initial pics. Godspeed recovery fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Blimey,as a layman,I can't believe you kept that arm! It looks like it smarted a bit!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark74 Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) Sorry to hear of all the bad experiences of the nhs ,not great from the providor side either . Morale at all time low and you're going to lose all your doctors . Who TF would have foreseen such a unanimous and determined action by Doctors of all people ? Don't worry ,plenty of skilled foreign staff to continue replacing us both in the nhs and private . ps Dont expect too much of Bupa unless all you need is a moob job . I know many who were going to work another 5 or 10 years who are quitting asap including me so your experienced staff are gone. Many reasons inc pay freeze ,workload ,continuous criticism ,worsening shift pattern ,ill heath and crapped on . Also losing our bog and coffee room . When you are dealing with the aftermath of a failed cardiac arrest covered in blood , measuring fluid loss in the form of diarrhoea into a jug at 0400 knowing the public is behind you makes a difference .That support is now gone . Difference is between feeling you are doing a special and worthwhile job and feeling like a skivvie who could be replaced easily by overseas staff . In my field of cardiac care you are much more likely to survive and lead a full life compared even to 10 years ago . If you can get a bed which is a major problem at present . That is not our fault . Clock wound back to the early 80s ,hot bedding and people dying on waiting lists . You voted for these policies . Bye . My wife works as a nurse and although she's thought of quitting for reasons you state, she hasn't yet.Her ward staffing has dropped by 50% since 2010 with most of her colleagues gone and now work for private healthcare firms - not surprising really when pay hasn't gone up in 6 years, pension contributions have increased as did her parking (yes they charge staff to park at the hospital). All for getting crapped on & physically assaulted for 12.5 hour shifts. Funding cuts both on NHS & social care as well as cronic staff shortages are all making the situation worse. The NHS is far from perfect, but the staff for the most part do a great job, under stress and difficult conditions, and when you have politicians like Jeremy Hunt only making it worse there's no doubt it won't get any better....probably end up in privatisation. As you say beds are hard to come by because patients can't be discharged because the social care has been eroded. Until the Government start providing the necessary staff & funds there will be more & more departures from the service....it's a vocation that is losing all incentive.... Edited April 12, 2016 by Mark74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 My wife works as a nurse and although she's thought of quitting for reasons you state, she hasn't yet. Her ward staffing has dropped by 50% since 2010 with most of her colleagues gone and now work for private healthcare firms - not surprising really when pay hasn't gone up in 6 years, pension contributions have increased as did her parking (yes they charge staff to park at the hospital). All for getting crapped on & physically assaulted for 12.5 hour shifts. Funding cuts both on NHS & social care as well as cronic staff shortages are all making the situation worse. The NHS is far from perfect, but the staff for the most part do a great job, under stress and difficult conditions, and when you have politicians like Jeremy Hunt only making it worse there's no doubt it won't get any better....probably end up in privatisation. As you say beds are hard to come by because patients can't be discharged because the social care has been eroded. Until the Government start providing the necessary staff & funds there will be more & more departures from the service....it's a vocation that is losing all incentive.... Cheers . Maybe it is just a natural process ,like with steel and coal industries . Not wanted or viable so consumed by the opposition . Nursing is now a degree job sadly you fund yourself ,you can get nearly as much on the checkout at Lidl . The bright young graduates are going elsewhere naturally enough . You would not believe the change in attitude among the nhs ranks . Less inclined to cover sick leave so wards dangerously understaffed ie 2 nurses for 30 patients is common . Defy you to give good care with that. As said ,you voted for it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 As said ,you voted for it . You've said this twice, have we all voted for something you haven't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Meaning the Conservative Government and a healthy portion of its support being on this forum . No surprises what is going on ,just Conservatism at full throttle while it can . I feel pretty well unrepresented for years now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 The thing is all nurses and doctors know what they're signing up to and then moan. No pay rise in 6 years ? Same here. Pension ? I can't afford to pay into one. Paying to park? I have to pay for the whole workshop . Working 12 hour days ? I worked 13 yesterday again like most days , 6 days a week. I'm not saying it's not right and far from it but most people are in the same boat . We all need each other in this world . The local girl in aldi on the till , bin men to doctors and nurses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark74 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 The thing is all nurses and doctors know what they're signing up to and then moan. No pay rise in 6 years ? Same here. Pension ? I can't afford to pay into one. Paying to park? I have to pay for the whole workshop . Working 12 hour days ? I worked 13 yesterday again like most days , 6 days a week. I'm not saying it's not right and far from it but most people are in the same boat . We all need each other in this world . The local girl in aldi on the till , bin men to doctors and nurses You are right we all need each other, but sadly there are fewer people wanting to get into these professions - that's why there's a 10% manning gap in the service (without the jobs already cut by the Government). And if nobody wants to become a nurse/doctor we will be in trouble. Thankfully for her my wife is only part time nurse, rather than a junior doctor working horrendous hours, and then expected to make life/death decisions. People then moan about waiting times in A&E, about lack of care in nurses on wards etc. Yes, they know what they are getting into, but then the Government change thier terms and conditions, so by upping contributions to pensions etc they are taking home less than 6 years ago, and junior doctors are now getting similar shafting. Now of course if they don't like it they can just leave - but of course unlike a cashier at Lidl you can't just hire someone off the street they need years of training. So what happens NHS nurses leave and join private companies, who are then contracted to provide nursing cover for staff shortages- they earn more money & Goverment have to pay the contractors far more than they ever would for keeping a nurse within the NHS. The current situation in NHS is unprecedented but it's the same across public service, teaching, police, fire, MOD. Somehow these people are an easy target for "austerity" when money could be saved in other areas. Of course everyone is feeling the pinch, (apart from the well off who are laughing under this Government) but surely we should be trying to retain our Dr's & Nurses so that the NHS can continue to function rather than forcing many into a career change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 I have had some appalling experiences in hospitals, and MRSA killed a friend of mine shortly after he survived the 1989 British Midland plane crash in Birmingham. I have also had some excellent experiences. You have to hope the good ones are when its serious and the bad ones when its not so! Frankly, I still wouldn't be without the NHS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Frankly, I still wouldn't be without the NHS! Despite my experiences me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysinaweek Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 when its gone we will all feel it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Meaning the Conservative Government and a healthy portion of its support being on this forum . No surprises what is going on ,just Conservatism at full throttle while it can . I feel pretty well unrepresented for years now . But Labour have done nothing to improve things when they've been in power. The root cause is there are just too many people to treat and not enough money to do it with! Labour opened the borders and spent all the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 I have witnessed the good and bad of the NHS, I was admitted to Hospital for a week by my GP having picked up 'a virus' didn't feel great but had a scary temperature so was sent by ambulance, started to go downhill fast after second day, pumped full of IV drugs made me worse still, yet no one could understand what was going on, IV went in too fast and so slowed so wouldn't go in at all overnight so ended up in HDU as body shutting down, stabilised so back on ward feeling worse and worse, still no clue as to what was going on, 4 days later I discharged myself, violently sick for a day (presumably getting drugs out of system) but then felt better and no reoccurrence, still no idea what that was, I felt like a science experiment. But, when the **** really hits the fan they have been brilliant and saved my Wife's life twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 I watch this from the view of a carer. My wife, The Memsahib, is the patient. She has been physically disabled for a number of years then got cancer three years ago and then mental problems. She has been through the mill. Started with private medical via her PPP insurance. They treated her very well and once cancer comes into it one goes on an enhanced cover. Paid for all her treatment and are still paying for recurrent scans. However, the treatment had to be done at the local NHS hospital because we live out in the sticks. So NHS provided and PPP paid. No problems there at all. Then she started having mental problems. Private medicine just cannot cope with this out in the sticks. You have to go along with the NHS system. Consultants and tests worked fairly well. However, the time she spent in hospital was a pantomime. They called her in then didn't do anything for 22 hours. Not even a visit by a doctor of neurology. No one helped her wash or go to the toilet - she is profoundly disabled - her hearing aids were removed, she couldn't hear anyone or remember where they had been put. Staff just shouted at her. Big screen over her bed, phone and TV system, on constantly - Great when you are having epileptic seizures! No one turned it off or even realised it might be annoying her. She couldn't remember when or if she had been fed or what she had ordered. They then discovered that the treatment she had gone in for would not be sanctioned by the NHS due cost and availability. Had to treat her with something else without my knowledge. This steroid treatment means she now can't have the hip replacement operation that she desperately needs. Now they decide that this treatment is not working so is stopped but it will be months before the operation can be done due recovery time. Care in the community? Well that means do it yourself. No assistance whatsoever due being to old and to rich! I have very mixed feelings about our health system. Some great people in it but not enough of them and a totally out of date system. And still we have to send all the cash abroad to help others and spend fortunes on immigrants. I'm not so sure about this. I will be voting Brexit and hope that may help us get the NHS back to what it used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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