TONY R Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 I had a Bass Monday Night NE coast on ragworm was a little two and a half pounder. anybody else had any out yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 And, of course, like a good little angler you put it back 16.5" or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 if it was a 48 incher he would still need to release it,only catch and release up until 1st july Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 if it was a 48 incher he would still need to release it,only catch and release up until 1st july Unless you are a nets man with a quota of several tonnes available. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 if it was a 48 incher he would still need to release it,only catch and release up until 1st july That's what I was getting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted April 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 I am as bitter as the next man on the new laws, but we just got to get on with it i am afraid. Obviously it went back but still enjoyed every second of it, Want things to get going start lure fishing for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 I am as bitter as the next man on the new laws, but we just got to get on with it i am afraid. Obviously it went back but still enjoyed every second of it, Want things to get going start lure fishing for them. We have loads of bass down here. More than a northern monkey like you would catch in a life time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted April 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 We have loads of bass down here. More than a northern monkey like you would catch in a life time. I dont doubt that for one moment, was a time not that long ago when it was generaly acepted there were few Bass in the north eastern areas, but they are out there and think they were always there, just that no body tried for them up here very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjlfishing Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 One or two getting caught in South west cumbria this last wk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 So who made the new rules, was it civil servants or politicians? Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 As a north east angler who targets bass I fully understand the need for conservation measures, however the rules that have been brought in are somewhat draconian. There are changes that could have easily been made that would have made more sense and likely found approval amongst anglers. I think a slight increase in the minimum size would be one change I would welcome another would be targeting people who deliberately go after large numbers of undersized bass and sell them on to restaurants. Perhaps a closed season on fishing in known breeding areas may help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Some south coast venues produce bass in winter. Here on morecambe Bay it's not common but happens ( I am not talking baby bass) Good few years back one came off rossal mid winter that was pushing towards a record taken by a guy out for cod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I dont doubt that for one moment, was a time not that long ago when it was generaly acepted there were few Bass in the north eastern areas, but they are out there and think they were always there, just that no body tried for them up here very much. How far north do you fish, I go up as far as amble. Mate of mine tries up as far as Alnmouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I think a slight increase in the minimum size would be one change I would welcome another would be targeting people who deliberately go after large numbers of undersized bass and sell them on to restaurants. Perhaps a closed season on fishing in known breeding areas may help. Re your last point, it won't - or to be more precise, it hasn't where I am. What would work very well is if 'SEA' bass was banned from restaurant menus for, say, 5 years. I am aware that many are farmed imports, but all too many are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Re your last point, it won't - or to be more precise, it hasn't where I am. What would work very well is if 'SEA' bass was banned from restaurant menus for, say, 5 years. I am aware that many are farmed imports, but all too many are not. Thanks for the input about closed season for fishing. At the very least restaurants should be asked to prove the provenance of any bass they use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Toontastic... I go right up as far as Torness point in east lothian, and as far down on thie east coast as the wash. Even venture over to cumbria up as far as Beckfoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 . At the very least restaurants should be asked to prove the provenance of any bass they use. Don't think that'll happen as the restaurant would have to delete the "freshly caught local produce" bit from their menu. Damned stupid anyway as they mess about with it and the gullible that choose the 'must have' "SEA" bass haven't a clue what one really tastes like. Caught, home, filleted, some flour to stop it sticking, drop of oil in the frying pan and a couple of minutes each side and served with a couple of slices of bread and butter all with in a couple of hours. That really is Michelin starred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I don't get many bass but the odd one I get I also go for the basic approach, no sauces or added flavours just pan fry it and serve it with a few salad potatoes and garden peas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatFreddysCat Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I'd be happy to see conservation measures for bass if it was a level playing field. However, when commercial trawlers can take tons and the sporting angler is allowed none, any fish returned by anglers is a drop in the ocean. Rod and line fishermen also return undersized fish wheres trawlers haul everything in dead. Seems crazy to me and it would do more for conservation if only line caught bass were allowed to be landed and sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 As a north east angler who targets bass I fully understand the need for conservation measures, however the rules that have been brought in are somewhat draconian. There are changes that could have easily been made that would have made more sense and likely found approval amongst anglers. I think a slight increase in the minimum size would be one change I would welcome another would be targeting people who deliberately go after large numbers of undersized bass and sell them on to restaurants. Perhaps a closed season on fishing in known breeding areas may help. i cant see size limits making much difference if there is no one to keep an eye on the commercial boats,around my area the commercial boys are keeping salmon and sewin(sea trout) so i dought they would return undersize bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted April 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I dont take many Bass home, most go back i quite often think those silvers are far too bony to take home, and a quick raise and lower of their dorsal fins as me releasing them unharmed. Not a softie or anything like that i think its how the vast majority of shore anglers view them anyway. Quite why they stopped us taking them is a mystery to me numbers taken in reallity by the average shore angler of my experience would be rediculously low. Bas are slow growers a nice 5lb Bass probably took around 11 years to get there, makes you think twice before deciding to keep it, sure most shore anglers are the same. Not sure what fueld the curent legislation exactly, but i have whitnessed drunks on cromer pier pulling out everything they could one evening, where as we had been at trimingham and removed not one Bass the same day. Shame some people cant just be responsible themselves without needing laws to bully them into acting in a right and proper way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I remember an article once by a fishing journalist, he noticed a couple of anglers fishing on north Shields fish Quay and they had about 15 undersized fish mainly flatties but a few cod laid out on the ground. He asked them what was the point of catching and killing such small fish, we're having a competition they replied. Why don't you catch and release he asked, listen we've bought the bait we can do what we want with what we catch. I've also been fishing on blyth pier and seen competition anglers catch small whiting and just kill them before throwing them back, when asked why I got told they're just bait thieves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I've also been fishing on blyth pier and seen competition anglers catch small whiting and just kill them before throwing them back, when asked why I got told they're just bait thieves. I've never ever got my head around that logic, it gets bantered about quite frequent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Mackerel season is worst, people catching bin liners full of fish and then just dump them. It's these people who cause mindless restrictions to be imposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 So who made the new rules, was it civil servants or politicians? Blackpowder This is one reason why I'm voting to leave the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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