6.5x55SE Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Personally I've found splitting Non Toxic Wads a right Pain in the Bottom. Yesterday i decided to try and make the job easier. I hacked Sawed 4 splits into a Tube that was a snug fit inside a 12ga Wads spot welded a Stanley blade into the splits broke a Stanley blade in half spot welded those 2 half's into the other splits. Opposite end of blades with Liquid Metal/Putty fitted a 6mm bolt inside the tube then bolted the Wads Cutter to my Cartridge finishing Press. Not pretty BUT works a treat cuts 4 even parallel splits IF i still had access to a Engineering Workshop the Wads Snitter could/can be made with easy changing Blades and No Blades sticking out as mine. It works it's easy and I've still got all my fingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Looks like it does a good job , it is a pain in the **** to split loads especially the tougher wads like the sam 1s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Looks like it does a good job , it is a pain in the **** to split loads especially the tougher wads like the sam 1s. Don't sam 1 do ready split? Why are plastic wads split? Is it just so they open and separate early (on leaving the barrel) from the shot charge, Or is there a ballistical reason for splitting wads? I just cut them 4 ways 3/4 of the way down (as accurately as I can by hand) with a Stanley knife! They seem to work! A simple, safe well engineered wad cutter for different gauges would be on my shopping list though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Don't sam 1 do ready split? Why are plastic wads split? Is it just so they open and separate early (on leaving the barrel) from the shot charge, Or is there a ballistical reason for splitting wads? I just cut them 4 ways 3/4 of the way down (as accurately as I can by hand) with a Stanley knife! They seem to work! A simple, safe well engineered wad cutter for different gauges would be on my shopping list though! Not anymore I believe they did at one stage certainly the last three lots I have brought have all been unsplit . More to do with patterns than ballistics obviously a unsplit wad is going to leave the barrel much like a solid slug for a distance where a split one will start to distribute the shot much sooner. I spit my wads right to the base and they seem to pattern better for me like that , if you want a tighter pattern at long range then splitting three ways can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 You can buy a tool for the job OMV make one, however it is always nice to DIY, does not look to difficult to copy the OMV one. http://www.omv.it/kit-taglia-borre/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postie Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 I know nothing about loading carts and won't pretend I do,so just out of curiosity can you re-use plastic wads Been at mid wales SG after a big trap comp and the field is white with wads ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 I know nothing about loading carts and won't pretend I do,so just out of curiosity can you re-use plastic wads Been at mid wales SG after a big trap comp and the field is white with wads ? No they cannot be reused for loading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted May 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Looks like it does a good job , it is a pain in the **** to split loads especially the tougher wads like the sam 1s. Thanks FB i done a 250 bag of LBC in minutes. So far it's worked very well on 2-3/4" B&P and LBC - 3" B&P and LBC and 3-1/2" TPS ( 6 i tried off my father as I don't use 3-1/2" ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted May 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 You can buy a tool for the job OMV make one, however it is always nice to DIY, does not look to difficult to copy the OMV one. http://www.omv.it/kit-taglia-borre/ Thanks never realised that. Before I reloaded for my 12ga a few years ago a Gent on the Wildfowling Forum made a very good one.Yes you are right IF you have access to the Tools and a bit of knowledge they are easy enough to make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Does splitting them not allow steel shot to contact the barrel along the cuts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 You can buy a tool for the job OMV make one, however it is always nice to DIY, does not look to difficult to copy the OMV one. http://www.omv.it/kit-taglia-borre/ they look good wonder how much they charge for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 I don't reload but here we don't use plastic wads anymore as they maybe a danger to livestock. Not sure that the standard fibre wads are any better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Does splitting them not allow steel shot to contact the barrel along the cuts? Not unless you're really unlucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Does splitting them not allow steel shot to contact the barrel along the cuts? Or you are using small shot clay load sort of sizes Not unless you're really unlucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6.5x55SE Posted June 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 they look good wonder how much they charge for them €45 ( euro ) + shipping With kit you are able to do 12ga 3 - 4 or 5 slits and 3 - 4 and 5 slit 20ga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 €45 ( euro ) + shipping With kit you are able to do 12ga 3 - 4 or 5 slits and 3 - 4 and 5 slit 20ga looks like i will be ordering one at that price then it will save me hours an hours stud there slitting them by hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Continental Shooter Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 The reason for splitting is to allow the wad to stop in-flight rather than turn. If you leave it uncut, shortly after leaving the barrel, the wad will turn with pellets still inside making it, in fact a slug ... with all the added dangers. The wings you create, will help the wad losing its speed faster than the pellets, allowing all pellets to leave the wad; hence allowing the air resistance to stop it. to avoid the pellets touching the barrel you should not cut the wad to its full length but leave part of the bottom half uncut; the theory is to calculate 1/3 of the internal diameter; this will be the length of uncut wad you should have, but 2-3 mm will do as well. I'd always try and pattern one shell each to make sure which cut patterns best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Does splitting them not allow steel shot to contact the barrel along the cuts? no, can i give you a technical response? the 12 chamber is about 800thou, the barrel is alot less, the forcing cone feeds the wad into the barrel diameter which is smaller than the chamber. the funnel effect squeezes the petals close. no shot should be able to come through, although different brandings / models etc (some are better than others) when i bought some wads i rodded them through my 12gauge to see how tight they were, i can tell you they are "tight". coo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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