grahamch Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Have been offered an as new AYA no3 magnum which was thinking of buying and having reproofed for steel so I have one gun to use for the shore. Anyone had any experience of having guns reproofed for steel? Am not bothered about the cost only intersested to see if can be done. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 WHy does it need profing for steel>? No fleur deleys steel prof for 76mm . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted July 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Want it reproofed as only have a limited supply of ITM and want to usw HP 3 inch steel & hevishot though it when ITM runs out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 I recently bought a No3 for the same purpose. Had the chokes taken to 1/2 in each and will use it with steel. I don't think it's a huge risk as they're fairly stoutly built. Heard some horror stories about recent reproofing incidents. It seems like the proof houses are failing more gins than they used to for some reason. Gunsmith had taken some big losses recently with guns failing and becoming worthless, way more failures than they used to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 I`ve just bought a mint AYA No.3 3inch made c1979 with 30" barrels and an unusually nice bit of wood for the stock. It`s still bored the original full and half. I intend to have the full barrel bored out to half and will be using it with 3" steel cartridges WITHOUT getting it reproofed for steel. It was,of course, originally lead Magnum proofed. As far as actually having it steel shot proofed, this could prove problematic since the proof authorities have stated that they will not normally accept for proof a gun not specifically designed for use with steel shot. Needless to say, I `m not encouraging you to do the same. The AYA no3 3" with it`s beavertail fore end was originally specifically designed and built for the U.S. market. Although not designed for use with steel shot a great many of them are still in service in the U.S. and have been firing steel shot for years without problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Why bother they are not expensive and I have seen several steel shot proofed guns with damage barrels ,Its your gun and its up to you whether you want to risk it.If you do submit it to proof and it fails you have an unproofed gun on your hands to all intent worthless . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 I use a 1950's Midland 3" choked 1/4 and 1/2 with steel with no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 To good effect Paul when I've been with you.wink wink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2pop Posted July 19, 2016 Report Share Posted July 19, 2016 I've used all 3 of my SBS with steel shot (1x 3" mag), none of them steel shot proof and I've not had any issues, stick to less than 1\2 choke and #3 shot or smaller and you will be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krowe79 Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 I have the aya 3 and use steel 1 and 3 with 1/2 1/2 choke it's a very good gun first out off the cabinet I have the aya 3 and use steel 1 and 3 with 1/2 1/2 choke it's a very good gun first out off the cabinet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 I've heard of two things with steel shot, one being a ring bulge at the choke line on barrels with more than half choke and score lines going up the barrel being caused by shot. Has anyone experienced these problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 You mean like this http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/guns/buy-gun-guide/gunsmiths-report-increase-in-shotguns-ruined-by-steel-shot-2-21604 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 I'd just have any barrel tighter than half bored to half and away you go. I used an old 101 with Gamebore Super steel 4's for ducks and geese for years through half and quarter choke with no issues. You could have it proofed for your own peace of mind but a Magnum proofed AYA should be able to cope no problem in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 can i also point out that for a few boxes of soft tmx, itm shot would be about £50? how much is a reproof? better still, find someone who reloads, and bang out some niceshot loads. cheap and safe, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONY R Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 The half choke or less rule is sensible, but its a rule which covers a broad range of guns and gun types rather than all guns as is generaly acepted. In a plain barrel or braized rib or ribed double barrel of robust construction, will generaly give no trouble with a much tighter constriction, its when you start trying to shoot say a 4 or 4.5mm steel shot load through a lightweight thin walled english game gun you could run into problems loosening of ribs or bulging in the choke area etc. AYAs and especialy the magnums and tens typicaly are quite robust in construction, and even with a tighter than recomended choke constriction and big shot you will not encounter any problems. I have historicaly shot BBb and T steel at up to 1650fps through Kestrel and greylag 10s with zero issues regarding loosening or ribs choke area damage or strike throughs on the wads, now getting steel to pattern well out of tighter than full constrictions as these tens generaly have is an altogether different debate. Stick to max 3.8mm steel and i would run that AYA with full choke, and not loose a moments sleep over it myself. Another option is Copper shot its ideal for low volume shoting in non steel suitable guns and needs no plastic wad protection if you dont want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted July 21, 2016 Report Share Posted July 21, 2016 Ah, but that special one was with one of your home brews. wink wink wink To good effect Paul when I've been with you.wink wink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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