scorpius Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 We recently had burglars and they cut the cables to both outside lights, these were protected by a 13 amp fuse, if I replace them using a 60 amp fuse would this act as a deterrent to future cutting, the lights would have been on because they are operated by PIRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brushy Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 best to hide the cables Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millrace Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 no...wont do anything other than require more load before your trip goes ie the light could go on fire before it cuts out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Run an open loop alarm cable in a bundle with the power cables and tape it all up to protect (hide) it, if the same lot come back and cut through the open loop will be broken and alarm will sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Run an open loop alarm cable in a bundle with the power cables and tape it all up to protect (hide) it, if the same lot come back and cut through the open loop will be broken and alarm will sound. Do this. What's the thinking behind the original plan ? If it's to give the burglar a shock sounds dangerous and could land you in deep trouble if someone gets badly hurt. Even if they are scum unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedge Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 The scumbags won't know what size fuse you've fitted so the only thing you risk doing is either burning your house down (or at least the fuse not tripping when it should) and potentially giving someone a mains shock. Armoured/ hidden or alarm cable (as above) are preferable. Maybe get some CCTV? The kits you can get now are quite good; HDD record, watch via wifi, motion alerts etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny thomas Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Can't see how you'd be in trouble for doing this anyhow 13a is plenty to give someone something to think about I'd imagine even the stupidest moron would use insulated cutters. Wouldn't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) Just out of interest did you have the wires going up to the light or coming down to them if the wire was low then all they would need is some snips with thick rubber grips if the wire was high they would need some sort of steps to get up to it all takes extra time. The idea way is to drill a hole through the wall so there are no wires visible. Edited July 11, 2016 by four-wheel-drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 We recently had burglars and they cut the cables to both outside lights, these were protected by a 13 amp fuse, if I replace them using a 60 amp fuse would this act as a deterrent to future cutting, the lights would have been on because they are operated by PIRs. NO NO NOFuse is there for a reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisThePelvis Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Run an open loop alarm cable in a bundle with the power cables and tape it all up to protect (hide) it, if the same lot come back and cut through the open loop will be broken and alarm will sound. This, together with a post it note threatening to slash the tyres on their house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpius Posted July 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 I thank you all for your advice, what I find is so annoying is that when I put in a claim into my insurers for the loss of 2 strimmer's, chain saw, pressure washer, many power tools, John Deere ride on mower plus trailer, "Saga" informed me that the mower is classed as a motorised vehicle and not covered (replacement cost £6400) my advice to all is check your insurance small print, I didn't to my cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 I am no expert but I doubt very much if a 13 amp fuse was the correct size anyway, in simple terms the fuse size is determined by the current draw of the device and the load capacity of the cable. An outside light I would guess if properly installed would be fed with 1.5mm twin and earth and protected by a 5a trip / fuse either via a switched fused spur from the ring main of directly into its on feed on the consumer unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 As for the ride on mower. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/insurance/motorinsurance/11493891/Youll-need-100-car-insurance-for-lawnmowers-says-EU.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superspark Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Your lights were incorrectly fused to start with. I you were to electrocute some one you would be held responsible. A Cctv system would be good to collect evidence. You could set up high level pir unites to activate an alarm to wake you up if your in. Perhaps a water spray system activated by pir with coloured dye in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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