Brixsmaid Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154850732027068&set=gm.1269863119768656&type=3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Secret group that one for obvious reasons lol. https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155680489438538&id=694003537&set=a.10152363718993538.490995.694003537&source=48&ref=bookmarks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brixsmaid Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Secret group that one for obvious reasons lol. https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155680489438538&id=694003537&set=a.10152363718993538.490995.694003537&source=48&ref=bookmarks Try this: 2017 #Cocker #Spaniel #Championship Competitors - Results Congratulations. #WINNER - Mr D Ormond's Byrbwll Dotty 2nd place - Mr L Cooper's Breckmarsh Brook 3rd place & Gun Choice Mr J & Mrs C Atkinson's FTCh Dakotagun Arwin handled by Mr J Atkinson 4th place Mr A Waterhouse's Spritedawn Mystic Andy Waterhouse DoM Mr I Openshaw's Endowood Clowne handled by Mrs W Openshaw Mr J Heeley's Endowood Beatrice handled by Mr I Openshaw Mr M Farish's Baileys Pure Gold Mr J S & Mrs R Reid's Glenugie's Nalani handled by Mr I Openshaw Mr W Greig's Zamyendor Minnie Mr J Heeley's FTCh Mallowdale Georgi handled by Mr I Openshaw Mr W Clulee's Jacksheated of Poolgreen Ms J Menzies's Fernmoss Gold Dust of Gournaycourt handled by Mr J Bailey Mr I & Mrs L English's FTCh Broadmefarm Beau handled by Mr A Bennett Mr R Claydon's FTCh Kingscott Robson Ms A Jones's FTCh Centrewalk Willow of Episcopi Mr I Openshaw's Ardcaein Fall of Delphaven handled by Mr S Brewer Mr D Rayner's FTCh Woodash Quaver Mr I Openshaw's FTCh Endowood Cork Mr N Cannn's FTCh Countryways Alice of Craiwarn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) I posted a link to the results on my timeline so folks on here could see them, I'm already in that group lol x Edited January 5, 2017 by bigbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Question, does anyone know how many of them dogs a true cockers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Ooooooohhhh well to find out you would have to join the above group on FB lol Edited January 5, 2017 by bigbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I'll give you a ring when I get in e.w if I get chance .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Nice idea bigbird, but I'd rather not as having to part with cash to join that inner circle goes against my princsable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) What's a princsable lol And what you on about parting with cash? Edited January 5, 2017 by bigbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PERCE Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Well there isn't any Taliban in the winner............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Well there isn't any Taliban in the winner............ Got a good one here cocker cross whippet cross clumber spaniel, but would pass as a cocker could even drum some papers up if needed any good to you chap make a good trail dog. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Congrats to Andy Waterhouse on the 4th place. He trains my GF and her little cocker bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Makes sense now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Interesting article in a couple of the rags this morning..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Reading the online news today and it seems like a certain Mrs. E Windsor of London is coming under scrutiny. Her pedigree cocker is reportedly a little bit on the sprocker side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Reading the online news today and it seems like a certain Mrs. E Windsor of London is coming under scrutiny. Her pedigree cocker is reportedly a little bit on the sprocker side Trouble is it ain't on it's own, this has been going on for years nothing new really except one man had the balls to speak out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Trouble is it ain't on it's own, this has been going on for years nothing new really except one man had the balls to speak out. Or is it just sour grapes because he lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Who lost? There's DNA tests to 'prove' it albeit they're not supposed to be 100% accurate but a collection of samples sent in from known cockers, sprockers AND springers were tested with only microchip numbers to differentiate between them and came back correctly. It's a minefield with far reaching consequences.... You can't help but wonder why if he has nothing to hide he doesn't just say 'Go for it, DNA test my kennels' and be happy that he can stick two fingers up at his accusers and take THEM to court..... Edited January 6, 2017 by bigbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 I'm also amaze the the KC or Field trial committee are so against dogs microchips being scanned at FT's. All dogs need to have a chip now (esp working spaniels being docked) so really would be no big deal to scan dogs on entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 I'm also amaze the the KC or Field trial committee are so against dogs microchips being scanned at FT's. All dogs need to have a chip now (esp working spaniels being docked) so really would be no big deal to scan dogs on entry. Thing is scotslad that in this instance money talks, I think both you and I have said that the trailing world is is ruining the good old working line in springer cockers and labs, it won't change whilst judges are placeing dogs just because of who owns them. The KC have made thing worst than ever by ignoring what's been going on under there noses, microchiping scanning each dog at a trail should be mandatory, that way we won't have two different dogs running under the same name at two different trails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Which dogs?? lol only kidding That's assuming their chip numbers are registered with the KC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 When you consider that Cockers originate from English Springers bred at The Aqualate stud it is going to be very difficult to DNA test for a true pedigree Cocker. Perhaps the Scottish gentleman has been feasting upon too much Sturgeon ? and has become delusional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 When you consider that Cockers originate from English Springers bred at The Aqualate stud it is going to be very difficult to DNA test for a true pedigree Cocker. Perhaps the Scottish gentleman has been feasting upon too much Sturgeon ? and has become delusional. Cocker is today a breed standing on its own, and you are quite correct that they derive from the springer, but if anyone infuses any other breed into them today and runs them dogs a cockers then they should be banned for life and any awards trophies should be forfeited, I should think that's obvious to a true sportsman/woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshAndy Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) Hi E.W hope you're well. Does this happen? And what breeds are they mixing in? Edited January 10, 2017 by WelshAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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