Red-dot Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 My Beretta 687 diamond pigeon in EELL grade has fired sub 500 shots. It started double firing and i took it to a local gunsmith who diagnosed a broken sear tip. He built the sear up and reprofiled it as beretta GMK wanted a small fortune for a new one. I lost confidence in the gun and never used it but on its first outing it would lock the second barrel out just like the safety had come on but i dont think it did. It seems to do it more when the bottom barrel is selected first and i have noticed that the second barrel will fire when dry firing with snap caps which it never did before as it has the inertia system. GMK were of no help even though the gun had fired only 500 cartridges. Any ideas or should i send it back to the gunsmith? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Was it a private sale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) I bought it from a collector unfired and it performed flawlessly on the few outings i used it. It is a true 28G action and the internals are made to scale. Edited February 5, 2017 by Red-dot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Back to gunsmith! How old is the gun? You may need to find a new gunsmith but hopefully the one who rebuilt the sear will be able to sort it. Edited February 5, 2017 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 The gunsmith is willing to have a look next week but i got short shrift from GMK when they aged the gun to be out of warranty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Curious but how much did they want . If you bought the gun from a dealer then it needs to go back ,but as you have taken it to a third party he may well be within his rights to refuse or charge for any remedial work . Beretta triggers can be a little tricky and there are several causes but to be honest without having a good look anything said would be guess work . I do not or want to know who did the work but I would suggest another gunsmiths opinion should be sort . I see one of my questions answered whilst typing this . Edited February 5, 2017 by Gunman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 The warranty most likely only applies to the original owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) I would send it to gmk.you could spend a small fortune having bits rebuilt by local people.maybe ask gmk if it comes back repaired from them do they give a warranty on the fault not showing again and if it does will they repair free of charge.i had a similar problem with my dt10 double discharge.it went back to gmk they replaced the trigger unit and the safety/ selector unit.no problem since.mine was and still is under warranty though. Edited February 5, 2017 by bostonmick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 For GMK to supply one sear i was told £800! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytheboy Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 You can't import a part from brownells or somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Although GMK might seem to be a bit mean on this one The problem that they have to deal with is the fact that this product is out of guarantee and a third party has done a repair to a critical operation part. They have no knowledge of what or how this repair has been done and how the parts have been adjusted. It is a critical operation part that has a fault. In the case of it being in the trigger mechanism of a shotgun makes it even more critical. Unless this is sorted out to a safe working standard then the weapon can't be trusted. How you go about this is up to you. PS How have GMK come up with £800 to import a small part? I know that there would be the fitting and adjusting cost but £800 is a bit off the clock in comparison to the cost of the new gun. Edited February 5, 2017 by fortune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 For GMK to supply one sear i was told £800! By GMK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Indirectly via my gunsmith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Indirectly via my gunsmith.The one who fixed the gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I hear what you are afraid to say but this company does work sent directly from H&H, Boss and Purdey they are good and i will give them another go at what was not originally the fault. Now he knows there is a further fault i will see if it is easily sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 cant help saying it,,,but is this one of them berettas that are so perfect,according to pw ers that never go wrong ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Yes, my 'smith sees ten Berettas for every one Browning. He says it's due to Americas love for narrow and shallow actions. I suppose my true to scale 28g is just the worst example of tiny parts doing big parts jobs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 try these; http://estore.beretta.com/en-eu/beretta-sear-for-overandunder/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 try these; http://estore.beretta.com/en-eu/beretta-sear-for-overandunder/ Yeah but that's just for a raw casting. They have got to take it too bits, finish, adjust, gold plate it and all at triple time rates. That must take it up round the £800 mark + all of the other costs. I think that someone is taking the Mick with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 try these; http://estore.beretta.com/en-eu/beretta-sear-for-overandunder/ But then again http://estore.beretta.com/en-eu/beretta-washer-silver-pigeon/686-series/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I think I would try another gunsmith.perhaps one who is not snowed under with work from boss and Purdey etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 But then again http://estore.beretta.com/en-eu/beretta-washer-silver-pigeon/686-series/ Who's doing the pricing on these parts? One of the PG tips chimps? Apart from the thread it looks like a rough stamping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I never said he was.... sarcasm also exists on PW it seems. Thanks all who replied in a helpful and positive manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 £800? someone is having a laugh at your expense . Dont care who they do work for thats not a joke . I have been in the trade a long time and and although now retired I can not see how a new beretta sear including fitting and testing should come to more than £50.00. If indeed that was the fault it is one I have never come across . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-dot Posted February 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 That was the price quoted for a 687/28G part from GMK. The broken one was built up and reprofiled but this inertia problem arose upon first use since the sear job. He is taking it back on Saturday and hopefully all will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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