landofficer Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Need some help please, I've got a 391 auto had it from new for 10 years used and abused it. It was playing up earlier in the year so replaced the recoil spring, firing pin and spring and the trigger unit as the carrier was not working properly, this sorted the issue. Now it won't eject the spent cartridge it gets stuck in the opening of the auto where it should get thrown out and the new cartridge gets stuck under it as it's come out of the magazine tube. So both old and news cartridges are jammed in the guns mouth. I've replaced the magazine tube spring and taken it all apart and can't see anything else to change apart from the button spring that lets the bolt go forward. I will get a picture of it and see if can get it on. Thanks for having a read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Maybe tis just plain worn out with all the heavies youve put thriugh it! I know where theres an excellent extrema going cheap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishyplops Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Could still be the carrier , I had the same with my 391, got a new carrier put in and happy days, it was only about £35 including fitting by local gunsmith Philip Webster in Norfolk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landofficer Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 The gun is pretty hard up now but don't want to get another one. That extreme is brand new about though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I'm no expert but have you checked the cartridge extractor claws for wear? what cartridges are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landofficer Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 70mm cartridges at the moment, I've not really looked at the claw as the cartridge is still being pulled back into the opening of the auto but I know you can still make it flex so seems ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Have you tried looking on you tube? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I know that you say you have replaced the recoil spring, but I presume that you did not over oil or grease the new one ? I have seen unburned powder and muck, mix with lubricant and form a sticky paste which has then dried in the recoil spring tube, thus causing it to stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landofficer Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I've ruled out the carrier as it's not jamming the same way as before. I've checked the new springs and are fine, the old spring was a bout an inch shorter than the new one. You tube came up with the same problems but nothing to solve it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Have you checked the gas vent holes in the barrel ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landofficer Posted September 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Well vmaxphil it was something to do with the gas vents, took apart the gas piston bits by looking on the net on how to do it and got a chainsaw file and bent the end so to poke it into the gas holes, they didn't seem to be blocked but some stuff came out. I've replaced all the mainsprings firing pin and had it all apart and sorted all manner of problems. I would say to any one buy a new auto just take the standard warranty and just get the parts direct from beretta as it only take 2 days for them to arrive. So save yourself fuel cost going to a gun dealer and the time it takes for them to send the broken part to beretta to ***** to see if it is under an extended warranty or just over use or miss use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Wipe over with an oily cloth? Often over looked and has my 10 year old at least 390 singing like a song bird every outing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterse Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 It sounds as though it is almost certainly the carrier. I've had the same problem along with some of my friends. The solution for us was to twist the carrier, Vic who is on here has a link which shows how to do it, I'll try to contact him for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicW Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 The carrier is not involved in the ejection of the spent cartridge only in lifting the new cartridge into position. It sounds as though the problem has been solved by cleaning the gas ports properly. Vic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sishyplops Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 The carrier is not involved in the ejection of the spent cartridge only in lifting the new cartridge into position. It sounds as though the problem has been solved by cleaning the gas ports properly. Vic. mine was the carrier Vic, had exactly the same issue as the OP, took it to gunsmith and said it was carrier, changed that no further issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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