Royboy Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Hi im in the process of buying a pre fab house that had the slabs removed in the 80s and bricked up with certificate. what I was wondering is what the internal walls are made up off ? They seemed like stud walls when I gave them a tap but apparently they have steel beams in them for the load bearing ? I was wondering if anybody has taken these walls out before ? Is it even possible ?? and also I’m going to fit a new kitchen and was wondering how you attache the cabinets to a stud wall with out them falling off ? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboysparky Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155755025063248&id=117798338269776&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2Fgoodhousekeepinguk%2Fvideos%2F10155755025063248%2F&_rdr Id buy this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 That is not an Airey house. How the load bearing walls remain will depend on the improvement scheme. search PRC homes, you should find some details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy Posted February 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Delboysparky said: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155755025063248&id=117798338269776&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2Fgoodhousekeepinguk%2Fvideos%2F10155755025063248%2F&_rdr Id buy this Good idea ! 2 minutes ago, Fisheruk said: That is not an Airey house. How the load bearing walls remain will depend on the improvement scheme. search PRC homes, you should find some details. It’s what the original owners daughter calls it . I have had a look but not had much success, I’ll have another gander cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 It’s the video which is not Airey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboysparky Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Royboy said: Good idea ! There is some really good value homes if you have land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 When was the house built? Do you know what type of prefab it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy Posted February 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Fisheruk said: It’s the video which is not Airey Oh right cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy Posted February 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I’m not sure what type to be honest, it was built in 1950 and bricked up in the 80s, its never had Centrel heating and has its original bathroom in ! Ive not got keys yet so unsure of things until I start ripping it out. If it’s to much trouble to remove walls I won’t bother, I’m just trying to do a bit of research on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Here is a link, may be helpful http://www.prc-repair.co.uk/airey/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy Posted February 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I was wondering what was happening then but there’s two posts gone on somehow ! cheers I’ll have a read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon69 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 when you get the keys, get up in the loft and look at the top of the walls and see what they are made of. Could be brick and block, brick on outside breeze bloke inside? The plasterboard may be dot and dab(glued) onto the blocks, which leaves an inch or so airspace behind the board, giving the impression it is hollow, if tapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy Posted February 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, silver pigeon69 said: when you get the keys, get up in the loft and look at the top of the walls and see what they are made of. Could be brick and block, brick on outside breeze bloke inside? The plasterboard may be dot and dab(glued) onto the blocks, which leaves an inch or so airspace behind the board, giving the impression it is hollow, if tapped. Cheers pal I’ll do that, can’t wait to get my teeth into it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 certainly a steel frame my mother in law used to live in one and the council used to come round every few years and take off a few of the bottom slabs and measure the level of rust lying in the cavity to assess the condition of the frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) Be very careful there was a lot of asbestos in those old prefabs. You will need to get it checked out. Edited February 28, 2018 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy Posted February 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 Where would there be asbestos ? The last house I renovated I took up the original plastic tiles that where in the kitchen and they apparently where asbestos ! That’s why you shouldn’t mess with things you know nothing about !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Royboy said: Where would there be asbestos ? The last house I renovated I took up the original plastic tiles that where in the kitchen and they apparently where asbestos ! That’s why you shouldn’t mess with things you know nothing about !! All I know is there are a couple of streets of those houses about two miles from here, very close to where I used to work, and they belong to the council (mostly). About ten or more years ago the council systematically gutted all the houses, about three at a time. They moved the families out and the asbestos strippers went in. That's about as much as I know about the subject, I wasn't personally involved but I used to drive past and saw it all going on for months. I found this https://survivingmesothelioma.com/mesothelioma-risk-from-vintage-prefab-homes/ Edited February 28, 2018 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy Posted February 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: All I know is there are a couple of streets of those houses about two miles from here, very close to where I used to work, and they belong to the council (mostly). About ten or more years ago the council systematically gutted all the houses, about three at a time. They moved the families out and the asbestos strippers went in. That's about as much as I know about the subject, I wasn't personally involved but I used to drive past and saw it all going on for months. I found this https://survivingmesothelioma.com/mesothelioma-risk-from-vintage-prefab-homes/ I’m not 100% sure but I think these house had all the concrete removed but I’ll definitely check it out. Thanks for heads up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sciurus Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 I am a little out of touch about the status of Airey houses since I retired over 10 years ago. Airey houses were constucted post war with an inner framework of reinforced concrete columns with internal stud walls and clad externally with concrete panels, a method known as ‘non traditional’ construction. Unfortunately, the standard of design and construction was so poor that the framework and cladding fixings was prone to corrosion that in the early 1980s Airey houses were “designated defective” by the Government, meaning they were unmortgageable and people who bought them under the Right to Buy scheme we’re entitled to force the Council to buy them back. These houses became virtually unsaleable except to a cash buyer. After considerable research, A number of repair methods were proposed that were acceptable by some lenders if they had a recognised repair certificate but were not acceptable to others. Most lenders would not consider the mortgage unless the other half of the semi was repaired as well, some even wanted 50% of the houses in the road, to be repaired! Just rebuilding the outer skin did not cure the problem. The situation was a bit of a nightmare. The general feeling amongst surveyors was that demolition and rebuilding was the best and simplest option. Since these houses were often built on generous plots, it was not uncommon to buy a semi cheaply for cash, demolish it and build a detached house instead. I do not know how far your purchase has got, if it is in the early stages, it is essential to get a copy of the repair certificate and check with the lender that they will consider a mortgage on an Airey house with that type of certificate before proceeding any further. If this sounds a pain, remember these houses have a poor reputation and you will need everything to be in order, otherwise you will not be able to sell the property easily in the future. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. There is a lot of official info and research about Airey houses on the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy Posted February 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 Yeah it’s nearly sorted ! I’ve got a certificate , the lender wouldn’t lend with out the certificate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 I had a stud wall in my last house in a utility room where I fitted some kitchen units. I marked the top line of the units and cut along the line for the width of all the units and about 12” down. I took that section of plasterboard out and replaced it with 1/2” ply which I screwed to the studs. Mounted the units onto the ply which was hidden by the kitchen units and was solid as a rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy Posted March 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 6 hours ago, Cosd said: I had a stud wall in my last house in a utility room where I fitted some kitchen units. I marked the top line of the units and cut along the line for the width of all the units and about 12” down. I took that section of plasterboard out and replaced it with 1/2” ply which I screwed to the studs. Mounted the units onto the ply which was hidden by the kitchen units and was solid as a rock. Good idea ? I’ve also come across a metal rail that’s like one long unit hook, you screw that to the studs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Royboy said: Good idea ? I’ve also come across a metal rail that’s like one long unit hook, you screw that to the studs ? A standard fitting from that well known swedish flat pack company - works very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evette Posted April 25, 2019 Report Share Posted April 25, 2019 I need an airey house structurally securing to get a certificate, who have you all used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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