Mr.C Posted October 7, 2024 Report Share Posted October 7, 2024 20 hours ago, BobbyH said: What ads are these @wabbitbosher ads, you had to have been there. Strong willed was the man that could walk away from bosher towers with one gun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 7, 2024 Report Share Posted October 7, 2024 1 hour ago, Mr.C said: @wabbitbosher ads, you had to have been there. Strong willed was the man that could walk away from bosher towers with one gun! I know strong willed men who do not take their wallet, SGC or a gun slip when taking friends there. And still end up buying a gun or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin55 Posted October 7, 2024 Report Share Posted October 7, 2024 3 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I know strong willed men who do not take their wallet, SGC or a gun slip when taking friends there. And still end up buying a gun or two. I came away with 2 some years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrimshanker Posted October 7, 2024 Report Share Posted October 7, 2024 Bought my first gun with him and ended up with taking two 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted October 7, 2024 Report Share Posted October 7, 2024 I only bought one...got it RFD`d so I avoided temptation lol....good gun too . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 8, 2024 Report Share Posted October 8, 2024 I do hope Mick re-establishes himself here on good old PW. The "zombie" themed adverts were quite amusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryle Posted December 2, 2024 Report Share Posted December 2, 2024 I also miss the Bosher ad's, id had a couple of guns from him myself. To keep on topic with this thread, something I obtained on the weekend. A Fred Williams hammer. How can you say no? I'm a leftie, its nearly straight but I'm going to maybe try some stock bending with it when I get chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted December 3, 2024 Report Share Posted December 3, 2024 May I ask what method you propose to use for bending the stock? Not quite so easy with the semi pistol grip and the trigger guard tang will also require a bit of fettling, but you might be lucky to get the bend at the rear of the grip. I’m assuming that you’ve done this before, but if not, it may be better being carried out by a professional. Good luck anyway. Nice gun. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryle Posted December 3, 2024 Report Share Posted December 3, 2024 Im going to try to use either heat lamps or hot oil. Its something I have not attempted yet however it's something id like to learn to do. I will probably practice on an old wrecker of a gun (or two) first before attempting this one. Im aware the semi pistol grip will make it tougher and that I'll need to bend that tang too, theres only a small amount of r/h cast, so it wont need too much movement... hopefully that makes it easier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted December 3, 2024 Report Share Posted December 3, 2024 2 hours ago, ryle said: Im going to try to use either heat lamps or hot oil. Its something I have not attempted yet however it's something id like to learn to do. I will probably practice on an old wrecker of a gun (or two) first before attempting this one. Im aware the semi pistol grip will make it tougher and that I'll need to bend that tang too, theres only a small amount of r/h cast, so it wont need too much movement... hopefully that makes it easier! I’ve only done it (quite successfully) on guns with a straight hand stock and made a simple jig which worked pretty well. I used hot oil on rags wrapped around the hand of the stock with a hot air gun, but I would imagine that heat lamps would be more effective and certainly less messy. Good luck and let us know how you get on. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin55 Posted December 3, 2024 Report Share Posted December 3, 2024 13 hours ago, ryle said: I also miss the Bosher ad's, id had a couple of guns from him myself. To keep on topic with this thread, something I obtained on the weekend. A Fred Williams hammer. How can you say no? I'm a leftie, its nearly straight but I'm going to maybe try some stock bending with it when I get chance. I do like a hammer gun and a nephew loved using 1 as he could see how it worked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryle Posted December 3, 2024 Report Share Posted December 3, 2024 ---Good luck and let us know how you get on.--- Thanks, It'll be a little while yet as im in the middle of moving house. I'll have a bit more space for such endeavours as well as a vice where im going to help with things. I will try the jig idea for sure. 3 hours ago, kevin55 said: I do like a hammer gun and a nephew loved using 1 as he could see how it worked For me even when I was a young lad, word 'shotgun' gave me an image in my head of a hammer gun ha ha Unfortunately some of these old relics are damn near worthless however that lets some of us buy them cheaply and enjoy them at least! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukka Bundook Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 My old John Blissett, with a Henry Jones undelever,,..it's still magic to me and I got it as a teenager. Am 71 now! Made about 1860 or so. I No clue how to edit yet, so here are the locks....Joseph Brazier, Ashes. (His Wolverhampton workshop) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 57 minutes ago, Pukka Bundook said: My old John Blissett, with a Henry Jones undelever,,..it's still magic to me and I got it as a teenager. Am 71 now! Made about 1860 or so. I No clue how to edit yet, so here are the locks....Joseph Brazier, Ashes. (His Wolverhampton workshop) To edit posts, click on the three dots top right of the post 👍😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 3 hours ago, Pukka Bundook said: My old John Blissett, with a Henry Jones undelever,,..it's still magic to me and I got it as a teenager. Am 71 now! Made about 1860 or so. I No clue how to edit yet, so here are the locks....Joseph Brazier, Ashes. (His Wolverhampton workshop) What a lovely gun which you’ve owned for about a third of its 160 odd years. I bet that can tell a tale or two, both before and since your ownership. Joseph Brazier made locks for the better gunmakers, Woodward, Purdey (I believe) and obviously Blissett and many others. Reputed to be the best lockmaker in the business. A pal of mine had a Blissett, which, like yours, had the most exquisite engraving. Many thanks for posting. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 4 hours ago, Pukka Bundook said: My old John Blissett, with a Henry Jones undelever,,..it's still magic to me and I got it as a teenager. Am 71 now! Made about 1860 or so. I No clue how to edit yet, so here are the locks....Joseph Brazier, Ashes. (His Wolverhampton workshop) Looking at the position of the hammer, the gun would appear to have rebounding locks, so definitely post 1868. Nice gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin55 Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 5 hours ago, Pukka Bundook said: My old John Blissett, with a Henry Jones undelever,,..it's still magic to me and I got it as a teenager. Am 71 now! Made about 1860 or so. I No clue how to edit yet, so here are the locks....Joseph Brazier, Ashes. (His Wolverhampton workshop) Very nice indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukka Bundook Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 (edited) Good morning all, and thank you for your replies and pleased you like the old gun. Thank you on the edit thing, JK!! Old Boggy, Yes, re. Joseph Brazier locks. I think it was David Baker said about these best locks, (Brazier, Stanton, Chilton and some others) that their lifespan has yet to be determined, as they have not been known to wear out. Yes, they can be abused and rusted to death, but if looked after they continue to work as well as when new. London Best, No the old gun started out as a pinfire as can be seen by the style of the fences, and was converted by a blacksmith or whatever to centre -fire and an extractor fitted. The hammers were about dead square when I got it, and I filed them up to the present shape and blacked them with hot linseed as a tennager. Its not a great job I did! They are half and full cocking, and must be on half cock to open the gun as the strikers protrude and catch the extractor otherwise. One day I will take more photos of this gun. Again, pleased you like it. It Has a skeleton buttplate and a silver bead fitted Into the very muzzle ends of the barrels. All best, R. Edited February 15 by Pukka Bundook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 My mistake. Thanks for the info/history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 11 hours ago, Pukka Bundook said: My old John Blissett, with a Henry Jones undelever,,..it's still magic to me and I got it as a teenager. Am 71 now! Made about 1860 or so. I No clue how to edit yet, so here are the locks....Joseph Brazier, Ashes. (His Wolverhampton workshop) A couple of photos of one of the locks of my old Woodward `The Automatic` which were made by Brazier where you can just see part of the `Ashes`. The other photo a bit fuzzy I`m afraid. The gun was No.1 of a pair made in 1878. The locks were still in brilliant condition for a gun nearly 150 years old. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 (edited) 8 hours ago, Old Boggy said: Joseph Brazier made locks for the better gunmakers. Reputed to be the best lockmaker in the business. Yes, Brazier and/or Chilton. Edited February 15 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukka Bundook Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 (edited) Stanton too on the locks. Grainger made some beautiful locks as well. London Best, Not a mistake, it's hard to tell what's going on from that one picture! Old Boggy, Are those locks from a lever cocking gun?...rather than barrel cocking? Would like to see the rest of it please! I have a Wilkinson Pal Mal lever cocking from about this period. Sleeved but a nice gun. Best, R. Edited February 16 by Pukka Bundook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 5 hours ago, Pukka Bundook said: Stanton too on the locks. Grainger made some beautiful locks as well. London Best, Not a mistake, it's hard to tell what's going on from that one picture! Old Boggy, Are those locks from a lever cocking gun?...rather than barrel cocking? Would like to see the rest of it please! I have a Wilkinson Pal Mal lever cocking from about this period. Sleeved but a nice gun. Best, R. Yes, a push forward underlever hammerless non ejector. It had been sleeved, steel on Damascus by Benjamin Wild but I couldn`t find out when this was done and can only assume fairly early as it`s stamped on the side of the barrels and I`m told that this was later done on the flats, but not sure when this change occurred. Attached a few photos. The first two before the restoration to the stock and fore-end was carried out. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 I had a Lang push forward underlever non ejector (from 1881 if I remember right), on Damascus (in nitro). Mine was a sideplated trigger plate action, very finely engraved. I sold it as it didn't fit me well and the large amount of wood hollowed out of the stock to take the trigger plate type action gave the gunmaker concerns as to bending it to suit me, and he advised against any bending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pukka Bundook Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 (edited) Old Boggy, Very bonny stock and a lovely gun! Its a sort we don't see in the field very often these days. I don't know either when they stopped marking Sleeved on the side and went to the barrel flats. Did you refinish the stock yourself? Looks like a proper linseed job. Also if I may, do you know who's crest that is on he escutcheon? My memory is fuzzy on this. Is it that of a Viscount? Thank you for showing it! The old Wilkinson is a top lever for cocking/opening. It has certain merits. Once lever cranked over, it opens and closes easily. All best, R. Edited February 16 by Pukka Bundook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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