bruno22rf Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Struggling to find a reasonable cleaning system for my .17hmr - bought one for a .177 Airgun but boy it's tight down the barrel - any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 .17Hmr is .172 so slightly smaller then .177 so it will be tight. Try a dedicated Hmr rod and patches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Get a dewey .17 rod and bore guide , which are more than adequate for the job or if you can afford it get the the best one out there , the tipton carbon fibre rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 hours ago, telf said: Get a dewey .17 rod and bore guide , which are more than adequate for the job or if you can afford it get the the best one out there , the tipton carbon fibre rod I have to say I rate my Dewey rod for my HMR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 On 27/04/2018 at 00:05, bruno22rf said: Struggling to find a reasonable cleaning system for my .17hmr - bought one for a .177 Airgun but boy it's tight down the barrel - any suggestions? Sounds stupid but cotton buds did a great job on mine last week. With the cleaning rod thst does my 22. I just cut the bud and a cm of the platic off each end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 ???? How do you get a .22 cleaning rod down a .17 barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted April 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Bought the Napier universal pull through kit in the end - you simply vary the amount of patches depending on calibre - the kit comes with a list.....2 for a .17hmr - but if you are short of thinking ,like me, you could accidentally put 3 on and struggle with pliers, tweezers and much Anglo Saxon Phraseology for 20 minutes trying to remove the fatherless patches from the breach area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 pro shot rob and jag with correct .17patchs works the best... use this on both my hmr and .17ah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Graham M said: ???? How do you get a .22 cleaning rod down a .17 barrel Its not 22 size.. You have to screw on the 22 brush etc a 12 bore cleaning kit rod isnt 12bore size is it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Sorry but it was the way it was written ............ "With the cleaning rod that does my 22." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingEgg Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 I have a jack pike cleaning kit. The rod for shot guns does 410 20 12. The rod for rifle will do 22 up to 300. No rod is the barrel diameter. You attach the calibre brush to the rod. Or am I wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 I have a 22 cleaning rod that will do my .22 rf, .223 and .243 but no way in hell will it go down a .17hmr barrel. That needs a dedicated hmr rod which is much thinner than the .22 rod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 13 hours ago, Graham M said: I have a 22 cleaning rod that will do my .22 rf, .223 and .243 but no way in hell will it go down a .17hmr barrel. That needs a dedicated hmr rod which is much thinner than the .22 rod. I'm sort of leaning in your direction here, my .22 rod is a lot bigger than my 17 rod, but it may still fit, frankly even if it does I don't think the .22 brushes/etc will fit down a .17 bore and I'm pretty sure my 17 fittings don't fit on the end of my .22 rod. Anyway, I'm speculating/guessing at the moment, if I get a chance I'll actually try later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 I just use a 17 pull through, isn’t this enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 Just now, PPP said: I just use a 17 pull through, isn’t this enough? Free world, it's up to you, BUT pull throughs were originally designed to give shotguns a quick pull through to get rid of propellant residue which was corrosive until you could get home and clean it properly. Since those potentially sensible early days the marketing people have got hold of them. They are now sold as a 2 minute all you need to clean anything fully/completely/totally solution! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, PPP said: I just use a 17 pull through, isn’t this enough? I personally would say no , hmr rounds are very dirty as you would see after using rod,patches and brush , lots of people dont clean hmrs but i believe if you clean them properly from the outset then you wont suffer any accuracy problems where as if you dont clean them and then after god knows how ever many rounds do clean them then youwill suffer problems , l clean mine properly after every outing and the first shot is as accurate as the last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 Do you guys find the HMR needs to be re zeroed after cleaning? This is why (on advice of shop) I clean my gun every 200 rounds or so with a pull through.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, PPP said: Do you guys find the HMR needs to be re zeroed after cleaning? This is why (on advice of shop) I clean my gun every 200 rounds or so with a pull through.. NO!!!! If you clean your gun regularly and PROPERLY then zero WILL NOT change. What seems to happen is people give their guns (whatever they may be, but commonly the HMR) a quick once over, raise fouling and then complain it takes ages to shoot straight again. Fact is they have NOT cleaned the barrel, they have done a quick job which has generally made it worse than when they started. Ask yourself.....Why should the zero ever change if you keep the barrel clean? Edited April 30, 2018 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted April 30, 2018 Report Share Posted April 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Dekers said: NO!!!! If you clean your gun regularly and PROPERLY then zero WILL NOT change. What seems to happen is people give their guns (whatever they may be, but commonly the HMR) a quick once over, raise fouling and then complain it takes ages to shoot straight again. Fact is they have NOT cleaned the barrel, they have done a quick job which has generally made it worse than when they started. Ask yourself.....Why should the zero ever change if you keep the barrel clean? Hmm, I think you'll be banging your head arguing this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 On 30/04/2018 at 14:06, Dekers said: NO!!!! If you clean your gun regularly and PROPERLY then zero WILL NOT change. What seems to happen is people give their guns (whatever they may be, but commonly the HMR) a quick once over, raise fouling and then complain it takes ages to shoot straight again. Fact is they have NOT cleaned the barrel, they have done a quick job which has generally made it worse than when they started. Ask yourself.....Why should the zero ever change if you keep the barrel clean? Ok, thanks, makes sense... gunshop gave interesting advice... any suggestions for cleaning kits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe soapy Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 Just dont buy a sectional rod for the 17, and clean as soon as possible after a shooting session, before the powder residue hardens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad93 Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 One piece Dewey or Tipton rod nylon coated. Ive got a Dewey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 On 29/04/2018 at 19:05, Graham M said: I have a 22 cleaning rod that will do my .22 rf, .223 and .243 but no way in hell will it go down a .17hmr barrel. That needs a dedicated hmr rod which is much thinner than the .22 rod. On 30/04/2018 at 08:12, Dekers said: I'm sort of leaning in your direction here, my .22 rod is a lot bigger than my 17 rod, but it may still fit, frankly even if it does I don't think the .22 brushes/etc will fit down a .17 bore and I'm pretty sure my 17 fittings don't fit on the end of my .22 rod. Anyway, I'm speculating/guessing at the moment, if I get a chance I'll actually try later! Ok, my .22 rod has no chance of getting down my 17 HMR barrel, it gets stuck at the breech, on top of which my HMR rod has a female end fitting and my .22 rod has a male fitting so brushes etc are not interchangeable! My 17 rod is a Dewey and I'm impressed with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 Dekers , lve had the dewey rod in the past but found the plastic coating (which i think is more like some sort of paint rather than plastic) would eventually start to come off , so when cleaning the barrel the patches would be black forever and a day which i summise was the coating off the rod rather than the crud in the barrel i have now changed to the tipton carbon fibre rod and find im using alot less patches to get the barrel clean than with the dewey , so im thinking the coating on the dewey rod gives false representation of how dirty the barrel actually is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, telf said: Dekers , lve had the dewey rod in the past but found the plastic coating (which i think is more like some sort of paint rather than plastic) would eventually start to come off , so when cleaning the barrel the patches would be black forever and a day which i summise was the coating off the rod rather than the crud in the barrel i have now changed to the tipton carbon fibre rod and find im using alot less patches to get the barrel clean than with the dewey , so im thinking the coating on the dewey rod gives false representation of how dirty the barrel actually is Fair comment, and I have certainly noticed a bit of wear/removal on the black coating of the Dewey. Not sure if that is showing as increased dirt on the patches but that Tipton may be worth a look! This is the result of me cleaning a pals ALREADY CLEANED HMR which he always had zero problems with after allegedly cleaning! Top row right to left, bottom left to right. Scrub between each patch! Worked alright after that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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