What's the Best Gun every made?

[squodged]

 

 

I would say it'd be between the Beretta 68 series (Digweed used a 682 in the past) & DT10(Faulds Sidney Gold) in Europe.

 

And the Remington 1100 in the US.

 

What do you think?

 

 

 

 

[08shooter]

surely john moses b25 has to be up there somewhere too,around since 25 ans still going strong, id agree with the beretta and remmy too, top ten anyhow.

[LEFTY478]

The Lee Enfield .303 & the 'Tommy' gun. They helped insure that we still speak English and not German, as our first language.

[lurcherboy]

The AK47, 'nuff said

 

 

 

 

 

LB

[henry d]

H&H double 4 bore.

[Floating Chamber]

The Winchester Model 50 'Automatic' Shotgun. The FIRST semi-auto to have a fixed barrel. Not a painted lady with enamel inlays and stone finish. No plastic nasties or synthetic Rambo poser stock. No pressed in chequering and no stamped metal parts.

 

Chrome Moly barrel; receiver machined from solid bar as is the trigger plate. Walnut stock with clean-cut chequering. No messy pistons to clean; no gas eating away at the mag tube. No adjustment for light loads - cycles on subsonic shells.

 

Springs you can make yourself from music wire and fit using thumb and finger. Field strips with a twig from a tree and the carrier spring.

 

Three shots as fast as you can pull the trigger! Launched in 1954.

[Mungler]

Has to be the AK47.

 

Tuppence to make, you can dig a whole with one and no revolution would be the same without it.

 

Saw a Discovery docu job on it and it's history. Quite interesting really especially the slow motion film of the gun letting rip - everything flexes and moves and it's a wonder anyone ever got it to shoot straight.

 

As for a shotty, I make you right with the Beretta 68anything

[lurcherboy]

Has to be the AK47.

 

Tuppence to make, you can dig a whole with one and no revolution would be the same without it.

 

Saw a Discovery docu job on it and it's history. Quite interesting really especially the slow motion film of the gun letting rip - everything flexes and moves and it's a wonder anyone ever got it to shoot straight.

 

As for a shotty, I make you right with the Beretta 68anything

 

Only good for 300 metres

[Devilishdave]

I dont agree that the AK is a good weapon or gun. It is mass produced and will still work even if it is badly maintained but its accuracy is poor on the whole. If they were any good how come a lot of the countrys we beat use it? I personaly beleive we would be suffering much more casualties in both Iraq and Afganistan if the insurgents had an accurate rifle. As it stands we are taking out atleast ten of them to each one of us they take out so contraversualy my vote goes to the SA80 A2 on the assault rifle front but the real baby has to be the FN GPMG And its derivatives.

 

Dave

[Country_est]

If I had the money of Bill Gates,

 

Pair of Purdeys for game,

and a couple of Boss O/U for the clays and chucking in the back of the rangie for the pigeons

 

Some hope:

 

Would rather have the skill of digweed and a Baikel, than a Boss O/U and be a complete *****

[badgerman]

anything by holland and you know the rest, balance and beauty unrivalled!

[lurcherboy]

I dont agree that the AK is a good weapon or gun. It is mass produced and will still work even if it is badly maintained but its accuracy is poor on the whole. If they were any good how come a lot of the countrys we beat use it? I personaly beleive we would be suffering much more casualties in both Iraq and Afganistan if the insurgents had an accurate rifle. As it stands we are taking out atleast ten of them to each one of us they take out so contraversualy my vote goes to the SA80 A2 on the assault rifle front but the real baby has to be the FN GPMG And its derivatives.

 

Dave

 

 

"cos we have the best bods Dave

[BSA Shaun]

Mosin Nagant obr 1891/1930g

M82A1 SASR

Heckler & Koch MP5

MG42 - apart from overheating worries

 

 

Heckler & Koch PSG1 - this one just about notches it for me out of the lot tho!

[trevor]

all of them as long as they go bang

[Wookie]

anything that works when you want it to and hits what you point it at.

 

My recommendation? AK47. As the man said, no revolution is complete without one. No, it's not accurate, it's built badly and it's ugly, but it _works_ every time you need it to, spares are everywhere and ammo i cheap. you don't need a range of more than 300m in most case, not in streets or jungle in any case.

 

Oh, and the Silver pigeon V gets my "best shotgun" vote.

[mry716]

You need to define what is described by 'Best'.

 

Is it the most popular - the most attractive - the gun they made the most of - the gun that has killed the most - the most accurate gun or simply the one that shows the finest workmanship?

 

If the latter, then for me it would have to be a pair of Edwinson Green 12 bore easy opener SLEs of mid war years with the opening mechanism actuated by a lift-up top lever.

 

The quality of fit and finish was better than any other gun I have seen and over the years have taken to bits lots of 'best' guns of all makers so do have a direct and positive comparison point.

 

When the lever was down and the gun closed the backstrap fixing screw (round) was so well fitted that it became part of the top lever and totally invisible and the trigger plate fit to the action was equally as excellent that no gap could be seen at any point; yet the whole came to pieces so easily. The guns were perfectly balanced and wood to metal fit as good as any I ever have seen whilst the rest of the metal work inside and out was so well finished it was purely and simply beautiful.

 

Cosmetically the yellow and black walnut and the exquisite engraving were better than any my dreams may imagine and the 32lpi checkering was so crisp it looked as if it had only just been finished.

 

Sometimes, just sometimes, I really envy the rich.

[Floating Chamber]

The Winchester Model 50 'Automatic' Shotgun. The FIRST semi-auto to have a fixed barrel. Not a painted lady with enamel inlays and stone finish. No plastic nasties or synthetic Rambo poser stock. No pressed in chequering and no stamped metal parts.

 

Chrome Moly barrel; receiver machined from solid bar as is the trigger plate. Walnut stock with clean-cut chequering. No messy pistons to clean; no gas eating away at the mag tube. No adjustment for light loads - cycles on subsonic shells.

 

Springs you can make yourself from music wire and fit using thumb and finger. Field strips with a twig from a tree and the carrier spring.

 

Three shots as fast as you can pull the trigger! Launched in 1954.

 

Come along to the Holly Bush at Ebstree tomorrow (Sunday, 10.00 till 12.00 £10 for 50 sporting.) Try my Model 50!

 

Post Code for Tom'Tom: WV5 7JE.

[Popgun]

Sidelock self opening ejector by James Purdey perfection

[plinker]

 

 

I would say it'd be between the Beretta 68 series (Digweed used a 682 in the past) & DT10(Faulds Sidney Gold) in Europe

 

What do you think?

 

 

 

 

 

that made me laugh.

[Browning GTS]

anything by holland and you know the rest, balance and beauty unrivalled!

 

[Oly]

Give me ten years to customise my new rifle and I'll let you know!

[ronan nee]

The Lee Enfield .303 & the 'Tommy' gun. They helped insure that we still speak English and not German, as our first language.

 

 

RN

[Baldrick]

As a B25 owner, my vote for best civilian gun goes to the B25, hands down. JM Browning had the original idea. Yes, a Blaser/Krieghoff/DT-10 may be more sophisticated, but they don't have the charm of a B25.

 

Best military individual weapon is either the AK-47 (for sheer durability) or the beast that is the SLR.

[P03]

I dont agree that the AK is a good weapon or gun. It is mass produced and will still work even if it is badly maintained but its accuracy is poor on the whole. If they were any good how come a lot of the countrys we beat use it? I personaly beleive we would be suffering much more casualties in both Iraq and Afganistan if the insurgents had an accurate rifle. As it stands we are taking out atleast ten of them to each one of us they take out so contraversualy my vote goes to the SA80 A2 on the assault rifle front but the real baby has to be the FN GPMG And its derivatives.

 

Dave

As someone who has used SLR, SA80 A1, SA80 A2, HK G36 and the Diemaco C7. I would rather have a good pickaxe shaft than an A1 or an A2.

 

Best ever gun? depends what you want it for.......horses for courses...the Berreta 86 series or brownings B25 ain't gonna give you good groups at 600 yds and you won't wanna eat a pheasant hit at 30 yds with a 7.62 SLR.

[Gordon R]

The original post seemed aimed at Clay Shooting. Beretta 680 etc and DT are decent guns, but hardly the best. Krieghoff's Miroku's, Browning, Perazzi's, Vostock MU8 - what about Winchester 101?