auto culto Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 when re-filling my cartridge belt the other day i pulled this one out a brand new box I,m surprised it made it through QC and i,m also glad i found it when filling my belt as it could have been a different story if i was loading the shotgun straight from the box as i do when pigeon shooting. I,d be very embarrassed if i was an eley salesman and someone pulled this one out. Has anyone else had this before ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rabgoat Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 that's shokin you should email that pic of to eley and let them see it,as you say that should never have passed QC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronan nee Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 email it on to them lad- see what they have to say for themselfs regards ronan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Might get a free case o'shot out of it. It works on Cadburys for chocolate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 ive seen a few shockers like that at my local club recently all those cheap black eley ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 Eley firsts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted July 15, 2007 Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 theyre the ones and thanks to that, i never touch them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auto culto Posted July 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2007 this ones a hb pigeon fibre wad (green) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 That's shocking But in a way serves as a kick up the *** to remind me to check a cartridge before I load it. Send it back to eley mate, my crystal balls see freebies on the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 If you contact Eley don't count yer chickens. I had a dodgy crimp on a HB pigeon 32g plactic wad. All the shot had fell out. I wrote to Eley, sent the cartridge back and the box it came in (they can tell the batch number from the box) and guess what? I've heard NOTHING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBLATCH Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 i would ring them first and explain the matter stating that you are making a formal complaint in writing and returning the dammaged shell fingers crossed you never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 I had a batch of faulty Gamebore Clear winners a few years ago, the cases weer melted at the crimp end so they stuff in the chamber. I wrote to them to complain and they wanted samples, so I chopped some up and sent them in. All they did was repalce the faulty ones, somehow I was expecting a 1,000 freebies or a nice gesture of good will. With the amount of cartridges these companies produce QC will never pick up on things like this, at best they will only do a random selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 Some years ago I had a number of Eley HB where the wnd cap pulled off whilst the cartridge was being ejected. I contacted Eley directly, who responded swiftly. They requested that I return the faulty carts with the carton to the dealer from whom I had purchased. A couple of weeks later I received a letter with a voucher, requesting that I return any remaining cartridges to the dealer. The voucher was for a full case of the same carts, but different batch. I had no further trouble with them, and still shoot them today. I had some faulty gamebore, but was offered a derisory recompense, which I declined, and ceased buying gamebore anything. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poacher Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 quality control on the eley firsts isn't great i've often had cartridges that won't fit into the gun becuase there is a bulge in the cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvoCars Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 i had a eley first missfire at the clay ground a few months ago, hit hard ect, waited 15 secs, ejected it and its was smoking/smouldering round the detanator but hadnt gone off, the rest of the box where ok so dout it was damp ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted July 16, 2007 Report Share Posted July 16, 2007 quality control on the eley firsts isn't great i've often had cartridges that won't fit into the gun becuase there is a bulge in the cartridge I have had that problem with Express 20 bore loads but not with Eley, Hull or Gamebore. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auto culto Posted July 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 ok I've been in touch with eley and this is what they have to say. They seem to contradict themselves by saying we need the batch number first but then say the case suppliers who supplied that case is no longer supplying us due to this type of problem. With regards my concerns with safety issues are the fact the if this round had gone unnoticed and was infact loaded into a standard o/u or sbs when the breech was closed in a vice like action the round being deformed and the primer sitting proud there could be a possibility of it going bang before the breech was full closed. I will get the round back to them with the batch number but it allready apears they allready know they have a problem with faulty rounds. Dear Sir, We are sorry that you have had problems with one of our products. We can clearly see the defect, However before we can investigate this fully we require the batch number of the cartridge. The case supplier who supplied that case under certificate of conformity Your concerns over the issue of damage to the gun or personal injury are not valid as the cartridge would not have fired due to the primer not being in line with the firing pin. Please could you return the cartridge to us or the dealer you purchased it from and also give us the batch number so we can investigate the matter for you fully. Best Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Just bin it and get over it! 1 cartridge in god knows how many years, whats to complain about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I must say I tend to agree with Sam. Life is to short to worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 I will be surprised if you get any joy from Eley, even the RFD's say they are hard work to deal with in all manner of ways. Out of four gunshops in my area only one of them stocks Eley cartridges/rifle ammunition. They wont deal with them because of their attitude to all and sundry. Regards starlight32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Starlight Just to inform you that Eley Hawk are responsible for making shotgun ammunition, and a totaly different non connected Eley company is responsible for producing rifle ammunition. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 and a totaly different non connected Eley company is responsible for producing rifle ammunition. How non connected are they webber? surely they are just different divisions of the same company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 I believe that they were split many years ago, and are totaly seperate entities, with no connection what so ever, other than they share the name Eley. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBill Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Just bin it and get over it! 1 cartridge in god knows how many years, whats to complain about. I understand what you are saying but it REALLY gets my goat when big companies say "tough, what are you going to do about it?" This happened to me once with a £30k purchase, after after spending a few hundred £££s on solicitors the up shot was if I had £10-12k to take them on and win all well and good, otherwise I would be down that money as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 A duff shell here and there - don't worry about it. Shells have never been so affordable; bin it. Example: Bog standard Grand Prix in 1962 were 75p a box; a living wage was under £20 a week. So, by today's standards, shells should be about £32.00 a box; (the way the price of lead is going we're heading that way! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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