captainhastings Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 Any online suppliers of hevi shot cartridges in the uk? Just looking for an idea of prices. Expensive I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 You maybe lucky and chance on some old stock , but as a whole they are not available in this country these days. Ask yourself why do you need them. They are great for high flying duck and geese , but overkill for most wildfowl shooting. If you shoot on the foreshore or have a high flight line on your shoot there may be a place for them , but for the average shot they are too much and will smash birds under 35 yards. I see from your posts you are a new shooter. Ask yourself can you cleanly wildfowl at 50-60 yards the ideal range for hevi shot. If not so I would stick with Bismuth or steel until you gain the experience needed for hevi shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted January 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 Thank you anser2 make sense to make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted January 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 Out of interest if they are so great why are not more people using them ? Higher shot count, harder hitting longer range from what they say. What is not to like. Prices at least in america are not too grim. You would think a lot of wildfowlers would be using them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 It’s down to the price! A lot of Wildfowlers are notoriously “frugal” and wont pay the price! If the heavier non tox shells were the same price and as available as steel, every coastal Wildfowler would use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 Captainhastings, cost is the biggest factor why more don't use them. When steel is doing the job for 30p a shot why pay £3.00 a shot. Around 70p for a 31/2" goose cart in steel around £5.00 for same goose cart in heavy shot. Even loading your own still near £4.00 In smaller guages the hw shot makes sense for long or high birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 hevishot can be reloaded. apart from cost, its good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 If you have only the odd trip wildfowling cost is not a material consideration. For those of who shoot regularly steel is the only economic way to go. I use ITM in my 8 bore but it does not go out that often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted January 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 Hevi shot in the states looks be a tad over a £ per cart. I would guess I have shot 100-150 at most this winter on ducks and geese so would find that ok. As I said on another post I have about a dozen hevi carts and plan to save them for the geese on the stubble next September Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 hours ago, figgy said: Captainhastings, cost is the biggest factor why more don't use them. When steel is doing the job for 30p a shot why pay £3.00 a shot. Around 70p for a 31/2" goose cart in steel around £5.00 for same goose cart in heavy shot. Even loading your own still near £4.00 In smaller guages the hw shot makes sense for long or high birds. Reloading needn't be expensive. I shot a couple of pinks on Saturday with some newly acquired hw13 4s. They were 37gm loads. They probably work out at about £2.20 each. 12 hours ago, captainhastings said: Out of interest if they are so great why are not more people using them ? Higher shot count, harder hitting longer range from what they say. What is not to like. Prices at least in america are not too grim. You would think a lot of wildfowlers would be using them ? They have, in fact, a lower shot count than lead or steel of the same size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 12 hours ago, panoma1 said: It’s down to the price! A lot of Wildfowlers are notoriously “frugal” and wont pay the price! If the heavier non tox shells were the same price and as available as steel, every coastal Wildfowler would use them. Most of the wildfowlers I know, regularly use "expensive" tungsten-based shot in the pursuit of foreshore geese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted January 6, 2020 Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, motty said: Most of the wildfowlers I know, regularly use "expensive" tungsten-based shot in the pursuit of foreshore geese. Most wildfowlers I know use Steel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted January 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2020 Well they do a good video lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 £2.20 a shot isnt that bad really. it probably could be reloaded, you may even see economic advantages if reloaded with premium nontoxic. in this instance, the point of reloading would be to have the available shotsize. dealers buy in minimal amounts of expensive nontoxic. unless you go to a specialist, jforsey to name but one. i did some HP loads and testing, 25g loads of steel did alright apparently. sub £200 / or thereabouts. i know it can be done with csb5, A1, and AS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Its high time we had a wider choice of no lead, non steel cartridges over here, availability over the pond is far better than here. I have tried steel in 12 and 20 bore and found their performance iffy so gave what l had left away. Will stick with itm and hevishot and pack up when I run out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, grahamch said: Its high time we had a wider choice of no lead, non steel cartridges over here, availability over the pond is far better than here. I have tried steel in 12 and 20 bore and found their performance iffy so gave what l had left away. Will stick with itm and hevishot and pack up when I run out. Yours is one of very few complaints I have heard about steel cartridges. Most wildfowlers are happy with the performance. I agree that we could do with more choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler23 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 I bought 3.5 kg of Powershot at a very good price last season, I haven't loaded any up yet,but while loading up some steel few days ago, I grabbed a tub to weigh the pellets, can't remember the exact figures, but I usually load #BBB steel for my goose load... I weighed the power shot in 4.0mm and it was less in weight than BBB steel....so for the cost of it,I'd not buy it again,steel will do me for my shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 54 minutes ago, Smiler23 said: I bought 3.5 kg of Powershot at a very good price last season, I haven't loaded any up yet,but while loading up some steel few days ago, I grabbed a tub to weigh the pellets, can't remember the exact figures, but I usually load #BBB steel for my goose load... I weighed the power shot in 4.0mm and it was less in weight than BBB steel....so for the cost of it,I'd not buy it again,steel will do me for my shooting Your powershot will suffer much less from the effects of air resistance than the BBB, plus it will also penetrate better. This is why it works well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted January 7, 2020 Report Share Posted January 7, 2020 Powershot is good stuff for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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