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7 hours ago, Ultrastu said:

Yup .just screw it off and store away.

Obviously  you can screw in any other normal mod and your gun is as it was before totally unmoderated . 

Best of both worlds .

Though its worth having a slip on cheek riser to lift the eye a bit for when using the mod .

Yes its a brilliant modular approach. It allows you to shoot clays un-moderated one day and pigeons from a hide moderated the next day. And the Hatsan Escort is £260 (new) from my local RFD. So if you add £180 for the suppressor that's £440 for the whole set up. 

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On 21/01/2020 at 22:19, fracture7 said:

I have one on a Beretta auto makes for a very long gun! but very quiet with subsonic carts,they do not recycle the action, normal carts will.

Have you tried the Eley Hushpower 32g 5's? They cycle well in my hastan escort.

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8 hours ago, bumpy22 said:

Is it that quiet? I had a 410 on trial from a gun dealer a long time ago now and that had a similar size mod on it which did not make much reduction in noise. If it is that quiet I have a mate on here that will want one on his hatsan

It's difficult to say how quiet it is when you're shooting. You'd need to stand near someone shooting one to really tell. When you tried the 410 moderator were you using subsonic cartridges as this can make a huge difference?

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On 20/01/2020 at 22:52, captainhastings said:

Has any one tried the moderators from hushpower and fitted on an existing gun? I sent them an email and apparently I can fit one on me hatsan semi or me old pump 
Still at 180 quid not cheap. The reason I ask is I picked up a new duck perm and noise is an issue. So might sort some thing during the summer 

Don't look at the cost - look at the saving in not buying a bespoke hush power 12g. You also don't have to squeeze an elephant gun into your cabinet .

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39 minutes ago, PF307 said:

It's difficult to say how quiet it is when you're shooting. You'd need to stand near someone shooting one to really tell. When you tried the 410 moderator were you using subsonic cartridges as this can make a huge difference?

Just standard 2.5"

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1 hour ago, PF307 said:

The after market-sound moderators are not as quiet as the fully shrouded (and drilled) barrels as would be expected (I'd be interested to hear the difference between an after-market moderator and a bespoke one with the same cartridge. My aim is to lower the sound just enough to not require ear defenders. One thing that I have learned from shooting my moderated Adler/Stealth 410 is that subsonic cartridges make a huge difference. Some normal cartridges are also quiet but some are so load that you wouldn't think that it was moderated at all.

Thats interesting. I am using 20g 30g no5 sub's in a O/U Hushy fully moderated it's very quiet and very effective. So much so that using it withut ear defenders I can hear the pellet strike on the birds. I was wondering just how quiet the sub sonic carts are and how much sound reduction is the gun. I don't have anoother 20g to try it against. I am finding it very handy for rooks and crows at this time of the year when they have wised up. In just a few weeks I have gone through 800 rounds. 

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3 hours ago, bumpy22 said:

Just standard 2.5"

That’ll be why you weren’t impressed. The subsonics are much quieter 

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I can recommend these 24g 410 cartridges from Cheddite. Subsonic. I use them in my Adler/Stealth. They’re sold as 7.5 (Italian) but apparently that’s a 7 in English shot size. Either way it hits squirrels and wood pigeons hard between 10m and 25m. 

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That's interesting never seen a 410 cartridge like that. 

Back on the 2.5 " cartridges  I use to use them through my hushpower 410 and they were very quiet. 

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With that much mass in front of the tiny wad .id doubt there is enough powder to get any decent velocity and if there is the wad is probably incapable  of protecting the rear pellets of deformation at ignition  

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2 hours ago, Ultrastu said:

With that much mass in front of the tiny wad .id doubt there is enough powder to get any decent velocity and if there is the wad is probably incapable  of protecting the rear pellets of deformation at ignition  

It does seem a lot of lead in a small case. Be interesting to try some. I would of thought the manufacturer must of tested some before production was started.

We are going to try and source some to trial in the chicken houses

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On 29/01/2020 at 05:48, PF307 said:

Yes that's absolutely right.The V3 choke is just the latest version of the choke which Hatsan supply with the Escort.

I only fit the moderator when I get to wherever I'm shooting as it won't fit in any gun slip with the moderator attached. Also I always replace the moderator with a standard flush choke whenever I remove the moderator and before I put the gun back in the cabinet so that I don't inadvertently end up shooting the gun without a choke and damaging the choke threads.

Sent my choke away tonight. Was surprised he said not to put steel through them though. So going to have to get a box or two the bismouth for the quackers. Be handy on the pigeons though save waking the farmer up 

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On 06/02/2020 at 12:41, bumpy22 said:

It does seem a lot of lead in a small case. Be interesting to try some. I would of thought the manufacturer must of tested some before production was started.

We are going to try and source some to trial in the chicken houses

I bought mine from Malmo guns in Lancaster. If you’re in the Holmfirth area anytime you’re welcome to a handful of the 24g Cheddites to try out

3 hours ago, captainhastings said:

Sent my choke away tonight. Was surprised he said not to put steel through them though. So going to have to get a box or two the bismouth for the quackers. Be handy on the pigeons though save waking the farmer up 

Excellent which choke did you send and for which gun?

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7 hours ago, PF307 said:

I bought mine from Malmo guns in Lancaster. If you’re in the Holmfirth area anytime you’re welcome to a handful of the 24g Cheddites to try out

Excellent which choke did you send and for which gun?

Hatsan escort semi and I had a 1/4 choke spare

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On 11/02/2020 at 07:09, captainhastings said:

Hatsan escort semi and I had a 1/4 choke spare

please let me know how you get on with the sound moderator when you try it

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Ive only pattern plate tested with mine but impressed by the noise reduction with subsonic Eley 32g 5's. looking forward to trying on pigeons this year

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43 minutes ago, PF307 said:

Ive only pattern plate tested with mine but impressed by the noise reduction with subsonic Eley 32g 5's. looking forward to trying on pigeons this year

Carts from malmo ? whats there deal on postage ?

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18 minutes ago, captainhastings said:

Carts from malmo ? whats there deal on postage ?

No I bought them from Kirklees guns but they’re out of stock. Malmo doesn’t post. York guns do have some in stock though at the moment. I phoned them last week. I’m not sure whether they post but it’s a fantastic gun shop so well worth a visit 

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On 10/02/2020 at 20:33, captainhastings said:

Sent my choke away tonight. Was surprised he said not to put steel through them though. So going to have to get a box or two the bismouth for the quackers. Be handy on the pigeons though save waking the farmer up 

The thick wads used in steel cartridges are the issue. They can break up in the suppressor, leaving big chunks stuck in the porting.

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