Konor Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 First new topic for me hopefully I can add a series of photos to illustrate a shot I took a couple of years back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Konor Posted April 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) The shot was taken standing with a .222 and the fox dropped immediately on first look it seemed I had hit him/her (I think it was a vixen from memory )at the top of her right leg and taken off most of his right back paw. I couldn’t work out how she had dropped so quickly until I noticed the drag marks on the top of the right paw. Further examination showed that her left incisor had been snapped by the bullets entry and had travelled nearly its full length to exit at the top of its back leg. The damage to its back paw was older but comparatively recent indicated by the drag marks on the undamaged side of the paw Edited April 16, 2020 by Konor Addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted April 16, 2020 Report Share Posted April 16, 2020 How unusual, at least you put it out of its misery. That paw wound looks like it would go septic. Fox in otherwise good condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted April 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, WalkedUp said: How unusual, at least you put it out of its misery. That paw wound looks like it would go septic. Fox in otherwise good condition. I suspect the damage to the paw was a long range shot with no compensation for drop possibly and/or a moving shot because it was hit in the back foot but it is anyone’s guess. She may have sustained the damage some way other than a bullet but I can’t think how that might have happened. A poor shot seems the most likely explanation Edited April 17, 2020 by Konor Clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 don't hear much of a .222 round for foxing as it got much of a following out there lad's ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Hi K-H Many use a .222Rem for Fox, Muntjac/Water Deer and of course Roe in Scotland - seems to work well, leastways for me. L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted April 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, kenholland said: don't hear much of a .222 round for foxing as it got much of a following out there lad's ?. I use mine for fox and roe deer. Shots are usually under 200 yards for fox and I try to get as close to the deer as I can just for the stalk I don’t think I have taken a for further than 150 yards and the norm is 50 to 100 yards. It’s a very accurate rifle and can cloverleaf at 100 yards.The .222 is at the bottom ,Ruger .243 in the middle and .22lr Winchester model 52b at the top. Edited April 17, 2020 by Konor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strimmer_13 Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 .222 first cf I ever used, first c/f on my own ticket. Great fox round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkedUp Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 A few older game keepers I know use a triple two. For most normal range shooting it is just as good as any other round on fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Treble two was very popular at one time. A mate has one and I used it sometimes. A very capable round. The treb lost favour when the .223 became popular. I can’t see much difference between them in practical use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted April 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 I had my. 222 rebarreled and was encouraged to rebarrel it to. 223 to make it more saleable but I decided to stick with. 222. It has never let me down probably because I keep to sensible ranges and a bit of luck. I haven't lost a roe with it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 I used to load all the ammo for my friend’s .222. We used 20 grains Reloder 7 and a 55 grain Speer bullet. It worked fine on everything, and he shot a LOT of deer with it, not to mention hundreds and hundreds of foxes. We chose the 55 grain bullet with deer in mind from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted April 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 You may recall Lea McNally the stalker from Torridon in North West Scotland and wrote for the Shooting Times in the 1970s I’m sure he used a .222 on red deer before legislation dictated calibre and New Zealand professional deer callers were keen on the .222 for their culling I can’t remember the book I read in the early 1970s about the exploits of the New Zealand stalkers but it was a great read I wonder if the move away from lead will affect the viability of the .222 as a roe deer cartridge here in Scotland.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 I've a .222 here that I bought for muntjac, needs the right set of mounts before I can use it as it'd been bodged before, that'll have to wait now! Its a lovely light little gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sako7mm Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 I recall that McNally used the now pretty much obsolete 222 Rem Mag, not the .222, Konor. I wonder if the book you read was one of Lynn H. Harris's? I have his later 'Guns and Game', it's a good read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Hi K I presume you are referring to Phiip Holdens book including Pack and Rifle , The Deer Hunters etc.........good reads! L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 blimey, I could write a book on all that, i'm glad I ask, thanks lads just shows you what I know about .222. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sako7mm Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 8 hours ago, kenholland said: don't hear much of a .222 round for foxing as it got much of a following out there lad's ?. I've got two .222's, Ken. It's not dead yet! Took one for a walk last night and shot a fox with it. Low noise, superb accuracy and great terminal performance- what's not to like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyefor Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, Big Mat said: I've a .222 here that I bought for muntjac, needs the right set of mounts before I can use it as it'd been bodged before, that'll have to wait now! Its a lovely light little gun I've quite a few mounts of different fits and sizes sitting in a biscuit tin. PM me what you need and I'll see if I can match it and I'll post them to you for free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted April 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 45 minutes ago, Sako7mm said: I recall that McNally used the now pretty much obsolete 222 Rem Mag, not the .222, Konor. I wonder if the book you read was one of Lynn H. Harris's? I have his later 'Guns and Game', it's a good read. Thanks Sako7mm for the info on the rifle I will check out Lynn Harris’s books 44 minutes ago, Loki said: Hi K I presume you are referring to Phiip Holdens book including Pack and Rifle , The Deer Hunters etc.........good reads! L Thanks Loki I’ll check out the books. I think The Deer Hunters rings a bell , I think in the book I was referring to the stalkers were moved about by helicopter and a few were based in the one cabin. It would be nice to find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 Isn’t life strange. Only an hour ago a friend rang me wanting to borrow .222 loading dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry78 Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 I love my 222 sako ammunition 50grain great round 👍👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konor Posted April 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Gerry78 said: I love my 222 sako ammunition 50grain great round 👍👍 I’ve got a 20 round box of 55 grain .222 gifted to me a few years back by someone packing in. He was impressed with it ,but Ive yet to try it out. Loki I’ve just bought Pack and Rifle coming from Australia but reasonably priced, about £20,and free postage I think that may be the book I read previously there is also a book titled The Venison Hunters by Mike Bennett that mentions a .222 Sako vixen and also covers deer culling in NZ so I’ve ordered that too.Thanks for all the recommendations,much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted April 17, 2020 Report Share Posted April 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Konor said: I’ve got a 20 round box of 55 grain .222 gifted to me a few years back by someone packing in. He was impressed with it ,but Ive yet to try it out. Loki I’ve just bought Pack and Rifle coming from Australia but reasonably priced, about £20,and free postage I think that may be the book I read previously there is also a book titled The Venison Hunters by Mike Bennett that mentions a .222 Sako vixen and also covers deer culling in NZ so I’ve ordered that too.Thanks for all the recommendations,much appreciated Hi K I am reading Pack n Rifle at the moment I have the other one too, didnt think you would be interested as would have moved on......... Enjoy - I do couple of times a year (same as Jim Corbetts books in India)! L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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