bostonmick Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 I am looking to get a rifle primarily for rats at my hen houses . I have seen two that are as new a bsa r10 mk 1 and a day state hunter regal. Both have sights and mod both .22 the bsa is 150 cheaper my question is which would best suit my needs I do not envisage doing a large amount of shooting with it but want reliability.tia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 I wouldnt choose either of those for reliablitity . The r10 can have reg issues The daystate can have power issues Id choose a bsa ultra .short easier to use and way way more reliable . Cheaper too . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 Hello, what will you charge the rifles with ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 Can't argue with Stu, ultras going around £350, or maybe a AA200/410? Mark 1 R10 could have reg issues if it doesn't get used much, hunter regal is a bit nice for a rat gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted August 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 53 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, what will you charge the rifles with ? Diving bottle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 Shop around and find an AA S200 in 22 cal. Yes I know they may not be seen as all singing all dancing but I have one I purchased second hand...a MK11 with two piece stock and amazingly tree rats keep falling over wiht 22 cal sized holes through the head. Would not part with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, bostonmick said: Diving bottle Hello, ok I had a MK 1 R 10 and never had any problems, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted August 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 Thanks for the replies. I have had a few thoughts around a break barrel or under lever just to knock off a few rats but with the vibration of the shot would this affect the sights and their accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 For the occasional rat shot .a break barrel airgun is hard to beat .. They are fast to load and always ready. Underleavers are slow and often front heavy . If you want multishot look at the gamo fusion . Most rat shots are pretty close range ..and no ,the sights will be fine on a recoiling gun .. I have a veritable airgun arsenal at my disposal. But when a squirrel or rat ventures into my garden i reach for my bsa lightening xl in .22 to get the job done .i keep its hobby pellets in a stock pouch on gun so its always ready to go . No checking if its full of air or loading mags first . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 Bsa lightning tactical stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted August 12, 2020 Report Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Ultrastu said: Yes Even the scope looks perfect for ratting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted August 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Following on what are the pros and cons of a hw 97 deluxe Weihrauch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Pros.. Excellent built, great trigger. Heavy for accuracy Cons.. Heavy if your lugging it around, insides can be hit and miss, springs can need attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) As a ratting gun ? Pros . Its a springer so no need to pump (fill ) it up first . Its well made and potentially accurate. Cons . Its heavy .especially at the muzzle Its quite long Its slowest to reload in a rush There are much better guns suited to ratting ..if your after rabbits also then a hw 97 could be ok .as rabbits often allow a slower approach to taking the shot .and longer range accuracy is always needed for bunnies. If your considering night vision or lamping in the future then forget springers completely you will need a recoiless pcp . Edited August 19, 2020 by Ultrastu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted August 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 Thanks for the replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant.mass Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) i have a few springers here and cpl pcps and cpl nv kits or cpl old lamp kits if your still looking ? Bsa Lightning XL Tactical Sussex Armoury Jackal Hi Power Gamo Coyote Hatsan Arms AT44 also have pump or few 300bar bottles Edited August 19, 2020 by ant.mass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 19, 2020 Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) Hello, have you found anything Mick , I have a nice 22 PCP, in 22 Edited August 19, 2020 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted August 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2020 3 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, have you found anything Mick , I have a nice 22 PCP, in 22 I have not found one yet and to be honest I am getting confused with what is out there. I will probably end up going with a springer as I am not going to do any shooting of rabbits only a few rats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 On 19/08/2020 at 17:32, bostonmick said: I have not found one yet and to be honest I am getting confused with what is out there. I will probably end up going with a springer as I am not going to do any shooting of rabbits only a few rats Hello, ok look at the HW 99 S in 22 needs scope/mounts and silencer or the HW 95 K in 22 needs a scope and mounts, Hawke Vantage are good, would suggest 1 piece mount, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 9 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, ok look at the HW 99 S in 22 needs scope/mounts and silencer or the HW 95 K in 22 needs a scope and mounts, Hawke Vantage are good, would suggest 1 piece mount, As above , but the HW95 k Would be my choice . (Gun for life). It will do want you want it to , 'long term'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, Longbower said: As above , but the HW95 k Would be my choice . (Gun for life). It will do want you want it to , 'long term'. Hello, I agree on the 95 K, a 22 makes a good rat rifle, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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