ph5172 Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 I have a 2001 VW Passat for shooting and towing. recently the pad warning light and message came up on the dash. I only had them done 12 months ago with decent spec pads but thought maybe a sensor had gone or they were worn down. changed today for decent brembo pads and it’s still illuminated. obviously I know the pads are new so in good condition but it’s due an MOT in the next few months. is this item now a fail ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTaylor91 Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 I was under the impression any warning light on the dash is now a fail. Did you put correct pads on? I had an Audi that had a metal wire in the pad that when worn to a certain point the wire was broken which put the warning on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Yeah correct pads were put on both times. Warning came one one day out the blue randomly but the pads were replaced with no issues and no warning lights about 8 months ago. Edited September 27, 2020 by ph5172 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Yes it is a fail. Perhaps an easy fix. I had this problem and it was a broken wire to th pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, DUNKS said: Yes it is a fail. Perhaps an easy fix. I had this problem and it was a broken wire to th pads. ******. I have just had the pads replaced today - they have a built in sensor wire that drops to a connector block. This then disappears up into the struts and metalwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTaylor91 Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 minute ago, ph5172 said: ******. I have just had the pads replaced today - they have a built in sensor wire that drops to a connector block. This then disappears up into the struts and metalwork May help you out. http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php/64888-How-can-I-disable-the-Brake-pad-wear-warning-Wiring-damaged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Check your all lights so times when a bulb as gone one of the lights on dashboard light up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, snow white said: Check your all lights so times when a bulb as gone one of the lights on dashboard light up Done. Its def a check pads light as the info centre comes up with it Edited September 27, 2020 by ph5172 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 I can see that but like I said some models the dash lights come on when a bulb as go have you checked all your bulbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 37 minutes ago, snow white said: I can see that but like I said some models the dash lights come on when a bulb as go have you checked all your bulbs Yep. All bulbs are working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Have you got a code reader if you have you might be able to turn it off with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 58 minutes ago, snow white said: Have you got a code reader if you have you might be able to turn it off with it No fault codes. i’m beginning to think the wiring has gone somewhere from the loom to the final car connector. I think you can reprogram the ECU using VW software to remove the warning. if it is a fail item I may well have to explore that option or bridge the wires further up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumber Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 try disconnecting the battery. Rebooting the system may clear it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoBeRt1990 Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, ph5172 said: No fault codes. i’m beginning to think the wiring has gone somewhere from the loom to the final car connector. I think you can reprogram the ECU using VW software to remove the warning. if it is a fail item I may well have to explore that option or bridge the wires further up I've got the software to turn it off, if your anywhere near Portsmouth I'd be happy to do it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 minute ago, RoBeRt1990 said: I've got the software to turn it off, if your anywhere near Portsmouth I'd be happy to do it for you. Brilliant offer. Thank you sadly I’m in Warwickshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoBeRt1990 Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 minute ago, ph5172 said: Brilliant offer. Thank you sadly I’m in Warwickshire No worries, have a look on some of the VAG group forums normally plenty of people with vcds software that would be willing to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 If you know a good garage they should be able to knock it off for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfer Posted September 27, 2020 Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 Have you checked break fluid level? could be as simple as that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, Surfer said: Have you checked break fluid level? could be as simple as that Yep all fine. this is definitely a low pad warning indicator usually set off when the wire breaks embedded inside the pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted September 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 27/09/2020 at 17:20, RoBeRt1990 said: I've got the software to turn it off, if your anywhere near Portsmouth I'd be happy to do it for you. Sorted via software. broken wire somewhere in the circuit. new brembo pads installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 Bear in mind that, when a garage carry out the MOT, they switch on the ignition, wait for the warning lights to go out. This is to ensure that the lights haven't been permanently switched off Failure of the bulb to initially light up is also an instant MOT failure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymondley Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 Saw this a bit late, but the warning light in itself is not a failure. The failure is "brake pad worn down to the wear indicator". If the pads are clearly not worn to the wear indicator, and the tester can see that, then it's a pass even with the light on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph5172 Posted October 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 44 minutes ago, Wymondley said: Saw this a bit late, but the warning light in itself is not a failure. The failure is "brake pad worn down to the wear indicator". If the pads are clearly not worn to the wear indicator, and the tester can see that, then it's a pass even with the light on. Thanks for the clarification. I did read the testers manual and I also read it that way but one company I spoke to said they would fail it ( a VAG specialist) and quote for fault finding on it. hooked up to a diagnostic machine and it was a duff wire in the car connector side creating an open circuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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