The Heron Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 I see in the news that the Boeing 737 death trap is going to be allowed to fly, from reading how it was designed and built it seems that it is similar to taking the engine from Lewis Hamiltons f1 car putting it in a Morris 1000 and then installing a computer to control it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 That's one aircraft I will never get on or allow any of my close relatives to travel on, if in my power to prevent it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 Well the vast majority of the 737s produced have been almost faultless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Well the vast majority of the 737s produced have been almost faultless. Agreed. But that's like saying the vast majority of people don't die from COVID, no consolation to those that it does kill. The Max 8 will be taught in engineering courses of the future as a prime example of catastrophic system engineering failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 Well I don't fly anymore, but would have no problem with the older 737s. Used them a lot in the past all over the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 I thought we were specifically talking about the max 8. I agree on the legacy 737, no problem there in my mind either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 19, 2020 Report Share Posted November 19, 2020 Just now, Raja Clavata said: I thought we were specifically talking about the max 8. I agree on the legacy 737, no problem there in my mind either. We may be, but the OP was not particularly specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agriv8 Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 I would go the other way - no plane has gone through external testing and fault finding more than the max 8. All planes are flown by commuters these days. ! I believe the only reason a euro fighter can fly is there is no direct link between the stick and the flaps ! If there is another crash the leasing companies will dump em and sue the **** of Boeing. it will be interesting eu regulators say without the trump interference! regards Agriv8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Agriv8 said: I would go the other way - no plane has gone through external testing and fault finding more than the max 8. All planes are flown by commuters these days. ! I believe the only reason a euro fighter can fly is there is no direct link between the stick and the flaps ! If there is another crash the leasing companies will dump em and sue the **** of Boeing. it will be interesting eu regulators say without the trump interference! regards Agriv8 Are you saying you'd prefer to fly in a Max 8 compared to earlier 737s or Airbus alternatives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 43 minutes ago, Agriv8 said: ........ All planes are flown by commuters these days......... I hope that they are all trained pilots 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 47 minutes ago, Agriv8 said: I would go the other way - no plane has gone through external testing and fault finding more than the max 8. All planes are flown by commuters these days. ! I believe the only reason a euro fighter can fly is there is no direct link between the stick and the flaps ! If there is another crash the leasing companies will dump em and sue the **** of Boeing. it will be interesting eu regulators say without the trump interference! regards Agriv8 1 minute ago, amateur said: I hope that they are all trained pilots 🤣 A true Freudian slip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.C Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 Thought the pilot was there to feed the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 20 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Well the vast majority of the 737s produced have been almost faultless. Russian roulette comes to mind, mostly the chamber will be empty, ..... but then there is the next one 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agriv8 Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 The system that screwed up was put in place to make the Max 8 fly like older 737 so Airlines minimise the time they have to release pilots to certify for that plane. They screwed up because it a took it input from a single input component and the pilots did not know the system was there so what it was doing or how to switch it off. What I mean re the computer is that in the same way that in modern cars there is no direct connection between your accelerator pedal and the engine your just telling the ecu you want to go faster. I know planes are slightly more complicated. if the plane passes eu testing I would get on one providing it’s had 6 months trouble free running. regards Agriv8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob85 Posted November 20, 2020 Report Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) I've seen the inside video from the Boeing factory and when asked, most of the fitters that were working on the planes said they wouldn't fly in them with how much they were forced to cut corners to make deliveries on time. Obviously some of these guys were over-exaggerating but I work on aircraft parts (currently on engine nacelles/thrust reversers) and most people would be shocked to see how flimsy a lot of the parts on aircraft are. Really puts me off flying! Edited November 20, 2020 by Rob85 Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTaylor91 Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 Wait until people realise the engines are held on by 3 bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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