Private 1700 acres land looking for shootng partner

[Dave-G]

Winnie had a clear indication of his location in his profile panel if thats what it's called - so drew less offers, but I counted four local-ish shooters who indicated an interest - and it concluded with a "sorted for now post" I've now noticed the poster of this thread seems to have a habit of making a first post without much of a follow-up, none-the-less you cant blame people for accepting a possible opportunity if it arises. It was also a very friendly thread that offers something and invites some sort of 'welcome reply?

 

There is a marked difference between someone desperately looking for any permission to get their FAC and one who is replying to an advert for some company whilst shooting who can assist, offer experience and possibly "trade" occasional shoots. In addition many of us don't have time off that coincides with beating or land clearance (night workers for example) nor have the health and youth to keep up with a line of beaters but can make their own more leisurely pace while laying up, stalking rabbit or even while driving an off roader.

 

The main thing that appealed to me was the opportunity for accompanied shooting rather than "you can shoot here" - one that I empathise with and indeed have offered myself - to two members on here, as well as on the BBS. I'm sure I'm not unique in that I cannot commit to do a beat or clear some land on a given day three weeks before the event - and not be at risk of letting the team down at the last minute because my sleep impediment meant I missed my prefered sleeping hours. My shooting is very much a last hour decision.

 

The companionship thing has in my case backfired to a small extent - as my brother who is used to rabbit infestation in Cornwall is currently staying up here for a couple of years. Where I would otherwise have "left a few" for another time - or even not gone at all I have been prompted to go out and overshoot most of my existing places, small numbers are now the norm. Great for the pest control side but not brilliant for sporting aspects. In addition I have now stepped aside from some of my permissions in the run up to the pheasant season so the poults do not become tolerant of a rifle crack.

 

I still enjoy the country air rather than that of the city, traffic lights, phone, TV, PC etc and the walk does me a power of good.

I'm not being rude here but those who feel the right to shoot comes with the obligation to work for a keeper are looking at it through rose coloured spectacles my freind. I work a 50 hour week and deserve some leisure as much as they do. The fact that they cannot trade a shooting opportunity for labour is not the fault of those who like an occasional night out with a rifle. I'm not saying don't do it or dont offer it, more power to them if they they can - but it's unfair to winge about it if there are no takers precisely when it is offered.

 

Finaly - whats to say the poster has not done so from someone else's PC - while on holiday for excample?

[Lord Geordie]

Ireland!! :(

 

 

Anyone know of any cheap houses in ireland then :unsure:

 

 

LG

[starlight32]

Dave,

 

There is some very valid points you have made, and yes acompanied shooting is a far greater opportunity.

 

Most of us wish to meet others who share our interests. If you are up and running and have your FAC then you are always a better option than those who don't.

 

But, if you don't have an FAC and are really interested a great opprtunity is to help out. Learn the ropes and more often or not you will be invited to take it up on the land you help upon.

[Suffolk shooter]

Starlight32, you make some valid points as well there.

 

I would like to apply for my FAC and even having access to our syndicate's land cannot get permission for FAC on it (complicated by AN Other). I went down the route of joining an indoor Rifle club which MC belongs to and for one reason or another it is difficult to attend everyweek. I have however only myself to blame for not progressing past the probation stage as yet and getting full status to enable application if only for target rifle initially.

 

I shoot with and help out two others from here FB111 and FG.22 whether that be as driver or lamper when out after foxes or bunnies. I enjoy it, the company, the banter, the thrill of chasing a fox to cut it off across the fields, the stalk, whatever, it beats being stuck indoors with screaming kids and an irritable, overtired missus. I will again be helping out FB111 in terms of beating on his shoot and likewise both of them will come and beat on mine. In return I get to go out after pigeon and rabbits through the year and to be honest that's what this whole thing is all about. Enjoying other like minded people's company, trading ideas about releasing pheasants and how to drive them and improving the habitat and hopefully the return bag as well as the local wild bird population.

 

As much as I get on with both FB111 and FG.22, why should they let me apply for FAC on their land. They both shoot, and lamping really requires three people, one to drive, one to lamp leaving the shooter to concentrate fully on what they are aiming for. Whilst, yes it would be nice, I for one would understand andd I'm sure others would feel the same.

 

SS :unsure:

 

PS, when can I stick my application in for your land

[starlight32]

Starlight32, you make some valid points as well there.

 

I would like to apply for my FAC and even having access to our syndicate's land cannot get permission for FAC on it (complicated by AN Other). I went down the route of joining an indoor Rifle club which MC belongs to and for one reason or another it is difficult to attend everyweek. I have however only myself to blame for not progressing past the probation stage as yet and getting full status to enable application if only for target rifle initially.

 

I shoot with and help out two others from here FB111 and FG.22 whether that be as driver or lamper when out after foxes or bunnies. I enjoy it, the company, the banter, the thrill of chasing a fox to cut it off across the fields, the stalk, whatever, it beats being stuck indoors with screaming kids and an irritable, overtired missus. I will again be helping out FB111 in terms of beating on his shoot and likewise both of them will come and beat on mine. In return I get to go out after pigeon and rabbits through the year and to be honest that's what this whole thing is all about. Enjoying other like minded people's company, trading ideas about releasing pheasants and how to drive them and improving the habitat and hopefully the return bag as well as the local wild bird population.

 

As much as I get on with both FB111 and FG.22, why should they let me apply for FAC on their land. They both shoot, and lamping really requires three people, one to drive, one to lamp leaving the shooter to concentrate fully on what they are aiming for. Whilst, yes it would be nice, I for one would understand andd I'm sure others would feel the same.

 

SS

 

PS, when can I stick my application in for your land

 

Suffolk shooter,

 

A professional shoot captain like yourself like yourself should not be chasing foxes through the dead of night throwing centerfire rounds around the countryside costing a pound a time- let someone else do it. As for your predicament regarding getting your FAC on your syndicate land, you will get it in time, You just have to wait for the 'greedy gut's' of your shooting syndicate to pass on by. And they will too believe me -I see it all the time.

 

Always remember 'every dog has his day'

[junior111111]

Winnie had a clear indication of his location in his profile panel if thats what it's called - so drew less offers, but I counted four local-ish shooters who indicated an interest - and it concluded with a "sorted for now post" I've now noticed the poster of this thread seems to have a habit of making a first post without much of a follow-up, none-the-less you cant blame people for accepting a possible opportunity if it arises. It was also a very friendly thread that offers something and invites some sort of 'welcome reply?

 

There is a marked difference between someone desperately looking for any permission to get their FAC and one who is replying to an advert for some company whilst shooting who can assist, offer experience and possibly "trade" occasional shoots. In addition many of us don't have time off that coincides with beating or land clearance (night workers for example) nor have the health and youth to keep up with a line of beaters but can make their own more leisurely pace while laying up, stalking rabbit or even while driving an off roader.

 

The main thing that appealed to me was the opportunity for accompanied shooting rather than "you can shoot here" - one that I empathise with and indeed have offered myself - to two members on here, as well as on the BBS. I'm sure I'm not unique in that I cannot commit to do a beat or clear some land on a given day three weeks before the event - and not be at risk of letting the team down at the last minute because my sleep impediment meant I missed my prefered sleeping hours. My shooting is very much a last hour decision.

 

The companionship thing has in my case backfired to a small extent - as my brother who is used to rabbit infestation in Cornwall is currently staying up here for a couple of years. Where I would otherwise have "left a few" for another time - or even not gone at all I have been prompted to go out and overshoot most of my existing places, small numbers are now the norm. Great for the pest control side but not brilliant for sporting aspects. In addition I have now stepped aside from some of my permissions in the run up to the pheasant season so the poults do not become tolerant of a rifle crack.

 

I still enjoy the country air rather than that of the city, traffic lights, phone, TV, PC etc and the walk does me a power of good.

I'm not being rude here but those who feel the right to shoot comes with the obligation to work for a keeper are looking at it through rose coloured spectacles my freind. I work a 50 hour week and deserve some leisure as much as they do. The fact that they cannot trade a shooting opportunity for labour is not the fault of those who like an occasional night out with a rifle. I'm not saying don't do it or dont offer it, more power to them if they they can - but it's unfair to winge about it if there are no takers precisely when it is offered.

 

Finaly - whats to say the poster has not done so from someone else's PC - while on holiday for excample?

people read this proply, as the guy says its about meeting people not using them..i think some people dont want to share there land as gread for them selves but if they thought about it whats the harm in meeting people for a shoot and if you dont like them or think there using you, dont invite them again..its a shame people are so selfish and only think of them selves..then we wonder why our sport is going down..and when rabits and pigeons and other pests need controling i think the person you invite to the shoot is doing you a bigger favour.............

[junior111111]

IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE ABOUT THE COMPANY AND FUN, NOT SPITE AND BITERNESS, WE ALL WANT THE SAME AND THATS TO ENJOY A SHOOT :blink:

[WeihrauchPower]

Well it appears nothing has become of this thread!

 

So Lord Geordie are you still gracing Australia with your presence?

[Lord Geordie]

Well it appears nothing has become of this thread!

 

So Lord Geordie are you still gracing Australia with your presence?

 

Yup I will be there from the 30th of September till about the 15th October IIRC

 

I am away to Tuross head??? for the first week (gotta keep the future Mrs happy) and then I will be free the week after to do what ever I please!!

 

LG

[mossy835]

Well it appears nothing has become of this thread!

 

So Lord Geordie are you still gracing Australia with your presence?

 

Yup I will be there from the 30th of September till about the 15th October IIRC

 

I am away to Tuross head??? for the first week (gotta keep the future Mrs happy) and then I will be free the week after to do what ever I please!!

 

LG

 

 

do we here wedding bells here.

[Lord Geordie]

Well it appears nothing has become of this thread!

 

So Lord Geordie are you still gracing Australia with your presence?

 

Yup I will be there from the 30th of September till about the 15th October IIRC

 

I am away to Tuross head??? for the first week (gotta keep the future Mrs happy) and then I will be free the week after to do what ever I please!!

 

LG

 

 

do we here wedding bells here.

 

Perhaps you neglected to wear your ear protectors B)

 

LG

[Suffolk shooter]

Suffolk shooter,

 

A professional shoot captain like yourself like yourself should not be chasing foxes through the dead of night throwing centerfire rounds around the countryside costing a pound a time- let someone else do it. As for your predicament regarding getting your FAC on your syndicate land, you will get it in time, You just have to wait for the 'greedy gut's' of your shooting syndicate to pass on by. And they will too believe me -I see it all the time.

 

Always remember 'every dog has his day'

 

 

"SHOOT CAPTAIN, SHOOT CAPTAIN" why the hell would I lower myself to that position B) I am the HONOURY SECRETARY, basically it means I organise everything from drinkers/feeders to work parties and what we are doing right up to cover crops, birds, feed and beaters. I believe I am even doing the shoot lunches this year (those who know me will atest to prowess in the kitchen just by the size of me )

 

I actually really enjoy chasing foxes in the dead of night except on freshly cultivated land or land that has just had the beet pulled like last night on FG.22's land. Talk about kangaroo suspension :o

 

I feel the FAC will never be granted on the syndicate land especially after something was decided today between myself and the shoot captain as to what we want to happen next year I hope your last two sentances are accurate and this happens, but I can't see it for sometime yet.

 

As much as I love being on the estate it is a fair trek from where I live and so popping over isn't really an option. I am trying to source something abit closer to home. Then after a bit of vermin control, I will go for a small rough shoot type scenario if poss and forego the syndicate.

 

My bigggest question over game shooting is how does anybody make money out of it, let alone break even when just doing it DIY like we are. Set a budget and then dozy world powers decided there is a shortage of wheat and bang the price of feed rockets. one of the guys today has just been paid £165/ton for wheat on Friday and November is looking higher.

 

SS

[starlight32]

Suffolk shooter,

 

The large shooting estate leases change hands by the year around my neck of the woods, merely because they just can't make any money out of it.

The true evaluation of game shooting costs have many hidden areas which do not come out until after the season is over.

 

I know a few people in the land business, and by the time you present a sporting game bird before a gun it at present prices cost you £18-19.00.

 

The key to successful game shooting is the land costs. If own the land you are halfway there- but if you don't and are a shooting tenant then it going to be all the harder.

 

My brother has a large shoot spread over five farms. He pays anything from nothing for some land right up to 6.00 an acre for the rest.

 

He has put just put his price up to £1600-00 (was £1500.00 last year) per gun for ten 80-100 bird days throughout the season. He reckons he will be well out of pocket this season.

[caeser]

I put a post on here a couple of months ago,(august 3rd) for someone to accompany me to my shoot because I had ,had on operation on my knee, could not drive, and my usual shooting partners were all unavailable. I have over 3000 acres in yorkshire.

I had no takers, which I was shocked about. I put the same post on 4 other forums and eventually got 2 positive responses. I thought I was going to be inundated with offers.

 

The 2 responses resulted in 2 days enjoyable shooting, with two good people.

[webber]

caeser

 

 

I obviously missed your post, as you would have had a third response.

 

webber

[jose pinto]

I have just started shooting properly and because of friendly neaghbours have accuired 1700 acres of hunting land all to my self.I have not joined the local gun glub because of all this private land.I have a .17hmr and a shootgun.I released 200 phesant and would appreceate some help in vermin control.The land has 2 wooded areas, Bog land and grass fields with corn aswell.One of the conditions of being allowed to use this land is to control the rabbit numbers which are totaly out of control.Any entuseastic shooters welcome just replay to this and i will forward my info and if u could tell me what gaer u have would help me deside.

 

 

Hi,im joseph,i got shotgun licence and a shotgun!i love shooting,and rabbit shooting is my favorite!!were about is the land?

[Dr W]

What's with the super large text, it's hurting my eyes

[berettaman1]

I would imagine as already pointed out that its a wind up, the spelling is so bad then unless he has a medical condition then it seems like its some spotty faced kid about 10 who is trying to wind you guys up. I see he has not responded to all the good guys out there, so try to see if the moderators cant tell him to .... go away...

[ROBLATCH]

I would imagine as already pointed out that its a wind up, the spelling is so bad then unless he has a medical condition then it seems like its some spotty faced kid about 10 who is trying to wind you guys up. I see he has not responded to all the good guys out there, so try to see if the moderators cant tell him to .... go away...

 

that would be the best idea

[vinnie]

:blink: mugler.....you 4got the first line.............goes somethink like.....do you #### on first dates............... dun it. :blink:

[thomasbeaton]

I have just started shooting properly and because of friendly neaghbours have accuired 1700 acres of hunting land all to my self.I have not joined the local gun glub because of all this private land.I have a .17hmr and a shootgun.I released 200 phesant and would appreceate some help in vermin control.The land has 2 wooded areas, Bog land and grass fields with corn aswell.One of the conditions of being allowed to use this land is to control the rabbit numbers which are totaly out of control.Any entuseastic shooters welcome just replay to this and i will forward my info and if u could tell me what gaer u have would help me deside.

 

great idea, ca you tell me were the land is. i have a .22lr, .243, x4 side by side 12b, o/u 12b, semi-auto 12b, x2 .410 b/a, martini 12b, hammergun 12b, and an bsa lightning xl tatical .177.

 

15 years old

partly run shoot with grandad, so have lots of experiance ie vermine

south ayrshire way

[markbivvy]

He is in Ireland.

[mossy835]

he must be just a dreamer.

[12boreblue]

I have just started shooting properly and because of friendly neaghbours have accuired 1700 acres of hunting land all to my self.I have not joined the local gun glub because of all this private land.I have a .17hmr and a shootgun.I released 200 phesant and would appreceate some help in vermin control.The land has 2 wooded areas, Bog land and grass fields with corn aswell.One of the conditions of being allowed to use this land is to control the rabbit numbers which are totaly out of control.Any entuseastic shooters welcome just replay to this and i will forward my info and if u could tell me what gaer u have would help me deside.

 

 

Where are you, I have all the equipment necessary to assist you?

 

Regards

 

12brblu

[markbivvy]

I have just started shooting properly and because of friendly neaghbours have accuired 1700 acres of hunting land all to my self.I have not joined the local gun glub because of all this private land.I have a .17hmr and a shootgun.I released 200 phesant and would appreceate some help in vermin control.The land has 2 wooded areas, Bog land and grass fields with corn aswell.One of the conditions of being allowed to use this land is to control the rabbit numbers which are totaly out of control.Any entuseastic shooters welcome just replay to this and i will forward my info and if u could tell me what gaer u have would help me deside.

 

 

Where are you, I have all the equipment necessary to assist you?

 

Regards

 

12brblu

 

 

read the whole thread please.