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[mel b3]

4 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I don’t think so that Welsh lot are riddled with Covid 🔔🔔🔔

I've been to yvonnes woodland ,the nearest person will be about two miles away 😊.

I can't wait to see our woodland again . I've forgotten what it looks like . Lockdown is just getting miserable now.

I shouldn't moan , I'm one of the lucky ones that's still been able to go to work , and I've still been able to get to some of my permissions . Some poor folks have been locked behind a door for the last year.

[Rewulf]

1 minute ago, mel b3 said:

Some poor folks have been locked behind a door for the last year.

And some of them still managed to catch it , and in some cases die from it.
Thats what I said earlier about controlling the environment, theres those that took every possible precaution , and sadly are now not with us.
There are those that took no precautions whatsoever, and ignored all advice, and if they got it , hardly felt it or didnt even know.
 

[mel b3]

5 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

And some of them still managed to catch it , and in some cases die from it.
Thats what I said earlier about controlling the environment, theres those that took every possible precaution , and sadly are now not with us.
There are those that took no precautions whatsoever, and ignored all advice, and if they got it , hardly felt it or didnt even know.
 

The good old covid lucky dip.  It's a bit of a xxxx to say the least.

One of the young lads on my truck last week,  was telling me how he's been helping his mom ( some kind of senior community nurse) . The lad and other members of his church group ,  have been spending their spare time , sitting outside elderly people's houses , and just talking to them through the windows ,  and delivering / collecting  covid tests , shopping etc . He told me that many of them haven't stepped over the front door for a year now . He also told me that a lot of the older people are scared to take a covid test if they have a cough etc , as they feel that it's an instant death sentence.  He told me about one old lady that he could hear sobbing inside the house , as she did her covid swab test . I was quite surprised, as I really didn't know that a lot of older people were so scared . On the other side of the coin ,  some of the old people under his mom's care , contracted covid and passed away , even though they hadn't left the house.

[Mice!]

10 hours ago, Rewulf said:

Really ?
So you dont work with other people ? 
You dont touch surfaces or items/materials that others havent been in contact with?
Beside that , you dont shop , or have delivered food that others havent been in contact with?
Your family/those you live with, can also answer no to the above ?

You are NOT in control of your environment, not in any degree.

I said I can control the environment I work in, to a large degree anyway.

Everyone in work is tested weekly, there are only ten people in my unit, I clean my area, clean my table I eat at, every night , first thing. Then I can wear a mask, wash my hands and use hand sanitizer and maintain social distancing,  I'm pretty certain that's managing the environment I work in, it's also a massive open building. 

I never mentioned the shops, me and my family have simply taken the basic precautions and so far stayed covid free.

I couldn't maintain anything on a plane.

11 hours ago, Rewulf said:

Exactly , some people dont want it , some people cant.
But surely if you and yours have it, thats not your problem ?
If others want to travel abroad or go to the pub/restaurant , who havent been vaccinated ( IF they are able to) then thats up to them ?
It wont affect you , because the vaccine YOU took will protect you, hence the question of 'Do you trust the vaccine'

If wilful vaccine dodgers catch covid , how does this concern you ?
Surely theres a little Darwinism involved ?

But it's only adults having the jab when its offered if they can have or even want it.

What's to say something won't change again with the virus and affect peoples kids?

That for me is why I've no interest in flying this year or going abroad, how often do people get a cold after flying?

I'll be more than happy seeing friends and family and taking a holiday in this country. 

[Rewulf]

1 hour ago, Mice! said:

I'll be more than happy seeing friends and family and taking a holiday in this country

One of the highest per capita death rates in the world here {Allegedly} 

But you feel somehow safer? 

You do what you feel is right for you, but don't criticise others for doing what they feel is right, and perfectly legal. 

[Mice!]

1 hour ago, Rewulf said:

One of the highest per capita death rates in the world here {Allegedly} 

But you feel somehow safer? 

You do what you feel is right for you, but don't criticise others for doing what they feel is right, and perfectly legal. 

You see my friends and family have taken things seriously,  and used common sense,  despite working throughout,  some in the nhs, some in the prison service and others working, thankfully none of us has caught covid, that's why I feel perfectly safe and happy looking forward to say getting the BBQ on, meeting up & enjoying ourselves. 

Have you not criticised people for still flying in and out the country during lockdown,  I have, many others have but its apparently perfectly legal. 

Honestly they could offer me a free holiday to majorca in July and I would say no thanks, I'm really hoping things start going forwards here now, and that the dates that aren't dates given by Boris work out.

 

[Rewulf]

9 hours ago, Mice! said:

Have you not criticised people for still flying in and out the country during lockdown,

Nope....

 

9 hours ago, Mice! said:

I have, many others have but its apparently perfectly legal. 

...Exactly , if its legal, why are you criticising ?
Do you feel it 'morally wrong'  ?

I went on holiday abroad last October, there were a few mutterings (not to my face) of how it was irresponsible, but it was all legal and above board, and very nice it was too, despite the restrictions on the plane and in the hotel, but both myself and partner have worked through it , and needed a break, end of.

The problem is, a section of society has become part time covid police, and full time covid preachers, telling us how to behave, and testing the moral fibre of the public....Its BORING now !
Back in March 20 , when the first predictions of the apocalyptic end of humanity were first mooted, the covid clergy set to work on the unsuspecting public.
The heretic deniers were soon rooted out , and the tin foil hat was placed firmly on their protests, while we all waited for the grim reaper to come and take us.
99.9 % of us somehow survived the endtimes, but ....The covid clergy are still berating anyone who dissents against 'The new normal'
Robbed of their importance in society, they continue the sermon, public shaming of anyone who dreams of a pub or restaurant visit, or the ultimate 'sin' of foreign travel .

Why do they protest any return to normality?
Did they they not like their lives before the world went mad ?

[udderlyoffroad]

1 hour ago, Rewulf said:

Why do they protest any return to normality?
Did they they not like their lives before the world went mad ?

What really blows my mind about the morality police, is that they seem completely unable or unwilling to concede that lockdown has a cost, both in human lives and to the economy.

Never mind acknowledging that that there comes a point when the cure is worse than the disease (we are well past that, BTW, but other opinions are available).  At this point I’d settle for them acknowledging that lockdown even has a downside.

I went abroad last October, for work in my case.  The silent clucking and tutting of people who had no idea what I did for a living and why it couldn’t be done remotely, was frankly incredibly irritating.

Fortunately, more through luck rather than judgement, I had my 2-yearly jolly over to the US to visit my brother 2 months prior to lockdown, so I was never going to have a holiday to speak of in 2020 anyway.

[discobob]

1 hour ago, udderlyoffroad said:

The silent clucking and tutting of people who had no idea what I did for a living

International Gigolo by any chance???? 😆

[udderlyoffroad]

5 hours ago, discobob said:

International Gigolo by any chance???? 😆

I wish.

<checks daily rate for man-whores>

Pass.

[udderlyoffroad]

Well apparently the furlough scheme is to be extended to September (STC).

We're really not getting out of this cluster anytime soon are we?

[Rewulf]

Meanwhile in Portsmouth...

[Scully]

2 hours ago, Rewulf said:

Meanwhile in Portsmouth...

😂

[Jim Neal]

I hope we have fewer Julies and more Sharons in the months to come.