Ultrastu Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 So I fancied this week an open sighted springer .I was reminded how much fun a simple break barrel with opens can be while round at a friend's last weekend plinking with his boys at cans and apples . I didn't want to spend a lot of money but still wanted a half decent trigger (the absolute most important part of a gun imo.) Day glow sights and a full power action . Most cheap (£100 - 200 ) Chinese or Turkish springers have TERRIBLE triggers and a lot use similar actions based on a gamo action .(including the latest bsa meteor) which is pants and they tend to TWANG badly. Anyway I took a trip down to my friend Trevor in weston super mare .and tried a few candidates . And walked away with a Smk xs20 . This is not a poor gun with bad trigger .just the opposite infact . It's a Chinese copy of a weirauch hw 95 . It's not identical but when copying such a good gun you end up with something that's pretty good . Suffice to say .for £170 this gun is smooth to cock .solidly built , accurate , no twang and has a lovely 2 stage trigger that you don't think about at all you just shoot It. I set the open sights up in my garden at 15 yds (the muzzle report isnt too bad at all in .22 cal ) and after 5 shot to get it on bull, it put the next 8 pellets in a ragged hole - super domes . Awesome . Today I took it down the farm and the chrono (all pellets jsb rws h+n ) did around 11.4 fpe and set about zeroing at 20 yds . It put in a 20 mm group with rws hobbys . So I them boshed a few cans and plastic bottles about free standing shots and just had fun shooting it .- which is its primary function in my cabinet . It's a bit weighty at 3.4 kg but it makes for a tame recoil and easy peasy accuracy . If anyone is in the market for a sub 200 quid springer this is an excellent option . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted November 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 Open sights rws super domes at dusk Happy with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted November 21, 2021 Report Share Posted November 21, 2021 Not bad at all mate, definitely something to be said for a bit of fun plinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhastings Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 Nothing wrong with that. I used to have a lot of fun with my smk. I think I did upgrade the trigger from maybe a guy called welsh willy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted November 22, 2021 Report Share Posted November 22, 2021 It cannot be any good cos it's cheap Chinese rubbish, made of monkey metal blah, blah, blah. 90% of people knock SMK and 90% of those have never laid there hands on one, these guns are built to fill a need and they do so admirably, climb up the SMK ladder a little and things get even better with their budget PCP Rifles and Pistols particularly the Snowpeak/Artemis offerings. As said, it should be all about fun/enjoyment and you don't need a regulated, laminated, computer controlled multi option £2000+ puffgun to have a laugh with your mates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 On 21/11/2021 at 19:24, Ultrastu said: So I fancied this week an open sighted springer .I was reminded how much fun a simple break barrel with opens can be while round at a friend's last weekend plinking with his boys at cans and apples . I didn't want to spend a lot of money but still wanted a half decent trigger (the absolute most important part of a gun imo.) Day glow sights and a full power action . Most cheap (£100 - 200 ) Chinese or Turkish springers have TERRIBLE triggers and a lot use similar actions based on a gamo action .(including the latest bsa meteor) which is pants and they tend to TWANG badly. Anyway I took a trip down to my friend Trevor in weston super mare .and tried a few candidates . And walked away with a Smk xs20 . This is not a poor gun with bad trigger .just the opposite infact . It's a Chinese copy of a weirauch hw 95 . It's not identical but when copying such a good gun you end up with something that's pretty good . Suffice to say .for £170 this gun is smooth to cock .solidly built , accurate , no twang and has a lovely 2 stage trigger that you don't think about at all you just shoot It. I set the open sights up in my garden at 15 yds (the muzzle report isnt too bad at all in .22 cal ) and after 5 shot to get it on bull, it put the next 8 pellets in a ragged hole - super domes . Awesome . Today I took it down the farm and the chrono (all pellets jsb rws h+n ) did around 11.4 fpe and set about zeroing at 20 yds . It put in a 20 mm group with rws hobbys . So I them boshed a few cans and plastic bottles about free standing shots and just had fun shooting it .- which is its primary function in my cabinet . It's a bit weighty at 3.4 kg but it makes for a tame recoil and easy peasy accuracy . If anyone is in the market for a sub 200 quid springer this is an excellent option . Is that Trevor at MD models/ Weston Guns? If it is, he’s a nice chap, had a couple of good natters with him before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted November 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 55 minutes ago, Rimfireboy said: Is that Trevor at MD models/ Weston Guns? If it is, he’s a nice chap, had a couple of good natters with him before. Yep .Good fella .he gets the lions share of my business these days , can't recommend him enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted November 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 So I thought I'd find the best pellet for my smk with open sights . So just now in the garden (wind blowing like crazy horses .) I tried super domes .super h points and hobbys . I want cheap and good for making big holes in tin cans 😆. Easy winner is the hobbys . They are the cheapest lightest make the biggest hole and shoot the nicest and most accurately . Funny that as I've always found hobbys shoot well out of most my. 22 guns and in .177 also for that matter I'd say the group below is sub 1 inch and without the far left hole it's an 1/2 group . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted November 27, 2021 Report Share Posted November 27, 2021 Hey that`s not bad at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 22 hours ago, Ultrastu said: So I thought I'd find the best pellet for my smk with open sights . So just now in the garden (wind blowing like crazy horses .) I tried super domes .super h points and hobbys . I want cheap and good for making big holes in tin cans 😆. Easy winner is the hobbys . They are the cheapest lightest make the biggest hole and shoot the nicest and most accurately . Funny that as I've always found hobbys shoot well out of most my. 22 guns and in .177 also for that matter I'd say the group below is sub 1 inch and without the far left hole it's an 1/2 group . Looks like decent value for money that xs20. Any idea how they compare to the Remington express and sabre? I’ve read good reviews on those too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted November 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 I think the remingtons are pretty good having test fired a couple, they are long and heavy though .but the triggers seem nice and the recoil tame with little twang . One thing I did notice yesterday while plinking is that the barrel isn't in dead line with the cylinder on my smk. It looks like it's got barrel droop when the barrel points down wards a bit .being brand new it's obviously got a nice tight lock-up . So this would make zeroing a scope (fitted to the cylinder ) a bit tricky as it would take a lot of vertical adjustment to get on target . This however for me isn't an issue as I have no intention of using a scope on mine . As the opens are fixed to the barrel and will always point where the barrel is pointing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Ultrastu said: I think the remingtons are pretty good having test fired a couple, they are long and heavy though .but the triggers seem nice and the recoil tame with little twang . One thing I did notice yesterday while plinking is that the barrel isn't in dead line with the cylinder on my smk. It looks like it's got barrel droop when the barrel points down wards a bit .being brand new it's obviously got a nice tight lock-up . So this would make zeroing a scope (fitted to the cylinder ) a bit tricky as it would take a lot of vertical adjustment to get on target . This however for me isn't an issue as I have no intention of using a scope on mine . As the opens are fixed to the barrel and will always point where the barrel is pointing . HW35 was known for barrel droop if I remember correctly? As you say, using open sights fixed to the barrel it’ll make no difference 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultrastu Posted November 28, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 The group above was actually shot at 24 yds . I was round at a mates house working today .when I had finished we got my smk out set up some cans and set about nocking them over . I had dad, mum and both his kids out having a go . Smiles all round .and with no tricky scopes to look through they could all hit the bean tins with a very satisfying thump .👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 Happiness is a springer and a bean tin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted November 28, 2021 Report Share Posted November 28, 2021 47 minutes ago, London Best said: Happiness is a springer and a bean tin! Cant beat it, so much fun over the years punching holes in tin cans. Strangely I’ve still never got bored with it. Nothing serious or technical, just fun, brilliant 😀👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agriv8 Posted November 30, 2021 Report Share Posted November 30, 2021 Got a couple of junior short stock 177 that belong to the local scout group in my possession for safe keeping! So can recommend those if you want one for a youth in your life ! they are Accurate with the correct pellet ! Atb Agrivi8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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