House alarm - HO guideline or Forse want?

[Fisheruk]

3 hours ago, Jaymo said:

Whilst on Holiday we had a ‘confirmed’ break in via our Arlo cameras instant notification.

Had to call my parents to call 999 as we were in France at the time.

From time of my mother calling to them six of them arriving and scaling our locked gates/fence was only six mins. 

I keep the direct dial number of the local constabulary control room on my mobile phone so that even when I am out of area, even in Africa or the States I can still call and confirm a verified intrusion from my phone notification. I haven’t had to do it yet, but I’m prepared.

[Westley]

22 hours ago, Scully said:

And how long before the police respond and actually get there? 🙂
 

That is irrelevant, I can assure you the burglars will be long gone. The only time anyone was caught 'in the act' was on the older type of delayed sounding alarms that were Police calling. ( yes, they were Police calling in the days before private security took over the monitoring. There were banks of buzzers and flashing lights on the wall of the local control room, along with the name of the premises and the keyholders details).  However, I do think that the response to an actual attempt break on a premises that housed guns would be reasonably quick, especially if I was giving a running commentary of what the cctv was showing.

1 hour ago, Fisheruk said:

I keep the direct dial number of the local constabulary control room on my mobile phone so that even when I am out of area, even in Africa or the States I can still call and confirm a verified intrusion from my phone notification. I haven’t had to do it yet, but I’m prepared.

Exactly.

[Scully]

4 hours ago, Jaymo said:

Whilst on Holiday we had a ‘confirmed’ break in via our Arlo cameras instant notification.

Had to call my parents to call 999 as we were in France at the time.

From time of my mother calling to them six of them arriving and scaling our locked gates/fence was only six mins. 

And that’s what it’s all about! Response times! 
The most expensive system in the world is worthless unless there is an effective response, and around these parts that is extremely difficult. 
Here’s another example. Local garage owner was alerted by his yard alarm in the early hours; he lives literally next door, no more than twenty yards away from his front door. 
He called the police who told him not to respond, but to stay indoors, and that a unit would be there presently. 
He got outside to see one of his Landrovers being driven off, followed by another vehicle. He got in his own vehicle and took off after them. Less than two miles further on the two vehicles he was following suddenly stopped, as did he, and despite trying to reverse as he saw the occupants running towards him, they set about attacking his car. He had his phone taken under great duress, his two front tyres were let down, and he was told they would return to torch his house if he tried to follow. 
The police arrived at his house around 30 minutes later, and he was picked up by another patrol car coming from a different direction which had been alerted to the incident. The Landrover was never found. 

 

[Jaymo]

23 hours ago, Fisheruk said:

I keep the direct dial number of the local constabulary control room on my mobile phone so that even when I am out of area, even in Africa or the States I can still call and confirm a verified intrusion from my phone notification. I haven’t had to do it yet, but I’m prepared.

Now that’s a good idea

[TIGHTCHOKE]

And then they answer with "How did you get this number?"

[HantsRob]

30 minutes ago, Jaymo said:

Now that’s a good idea

It is, but only for calls outside of the country where it's occurring.

25 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

And then they answer with "How did you get this number?"

The benefit of 999 is in areas of low availability of service or a busy network, you get priority over all other telecom traffic. It also sends the GPS location as best as possible to BT who handle the inbound call to geolocate and put you through to the right force. Even if the call drops, that's then handled as a dropped 999 and is still dispatched.

The issue is when you're close to a border and either force could get it. That said there's a seamless hot handover process where the call taking force will handle the inbound call and hot handover to the force that needs the job, or if necessary will co-deploy.

A geographical number would get you through but to my knowledge the numbers do change from time to time as they're not in general circulation as 999 is the one to have. I wouldn't be surprised if they questioned it, I am not aware of an alternative to 999 for my force area, only for switchboard, 101, and some other key areas. That of course doesn't mean there isn't one.

 

Side note, 101 alternatives:

POLICE FORCE	TELEPHONE NUMBER
AVON AND SOMERSET CONSTABULARY	01275 818340
BEDFORDSHIRE POLICE	01234 841212
BRITISH TRANSPORT POLICE	0800 405040
CAMBRIDGESHIRE CONSTABULARY	01480 456111
CHESHIRE CONSTABULARY	0845 4580000
CITY OF LONDON POLICE	0207 601 2222
CLEVELAND POLICE	01642 326326
CUMBRIA CONSTABULARY	0845 3300247
DERBYSHIRE CONSTABULARY	0345 1233333
DEVON AND CORNWALL CONSTABULARY	01392 420320
DORSET POLICE	01202 222222
DURHAM CONSTABULARY	0345 6060365
DYFED POWYS POLICE	01267 222020
ESSEX POLICE	01245 491491
GLOUCESTERSHIRE CONSTABULARY	01452 728199
GREATER MANCHESTER POLICE	0161 872 5050
GWENT POLICE	01633 838111
HAMPSHIRE CONSTABULARY	01962 841534
HERTFORDSHIRE CONSTABULARY	01707 354000
HUMBERSIDE POLICE	0845 6060 222
KENT POLICE	01622 690690
LANCASHIRE CONSTABULARY	01772 614444
LEICESTERSHIRE CONSTABULARY	0116 222 2222
LINCOLNSHIRE POLICE	01522 532222
MERSEYSIDE POLICE	0151 709 6010
METROPOLITAN POLICE	0207 230 1212
NORFOLK CONSTABULARY	01953 424242
NORTH YORKSHIRE POLICE	01904 618691
NORTHAMPTONSHIRE POLICE	03000 111 222
NORTHUMBRIA POLICE	01661 872555
NORTH WALES POLICE	0300 330 0101
NOTTINGHAMSHIRE POLICE	0115 967 0999
SOUTH WALES POLICE	01656 655555
SOUTH YORKSHIRE POLICE	0114 2202020
STAFFORDSHIRE POLICE	0300 123 4455
SUFFOLK CONSTABULARY	01473 613500
SURREY POLICE	01483 571212
SUSSEX POLICE	01273 475432
THAMES VALLEY POLICE	01865 841148
WARWICKSHIRE POLICE	01926 415000
WEST MERCIA POLICE	0300 333 3000
WEST MIDLANDS POLICE	0345 113 5000
WEST YORKSHIRE POLICE	01924 375 222
WILTSHIRE CONSTABULARY	01380 735 735

[Fisheruk]

On 29/01/2022 at 19:31, TIGHTCHOKE said:

And then they answer with "How did you get this number?"

They all have a direct number.

[team tractor]

On 27/01/2022 at 08:25, Scully said:

The bloke who owns the yard where we kept our wagon phoned police HQ when nothing seemed to be forthcoming about the break ins, and asked how they were getting on. He was told no one had been interviewed in relation to the break in, and asked why, when one had clearly been seen on cctv. He was told they couldn’t use that footage as it would infringe their ethnic rights.
Whether this is true or not I have no idea, but he reckons that’s what he was told.

It also identifies a certain section of our society as we suspected ( it following closely on the heels of Fair week ) and why no one was ever caught. 🙂

When our workshop was broken into we had the neighbouring house ring the police . They told her it’s not and emergency and to ring 101 😮.

£12,000 it cost in tooling 

[HantsRob]

8 hours ago, team tractor said:

When our workshop was broken into we had the neighbouring house ring the police . They told her it’s not and emergency and to ring 101 😮.

£12,000 it cost in tooling 

If they said they've been burgled rather than in progress, then it's not an emergency. Maybe they didn't hear what was said or it was explained poorly?

[Scully]

On 04/02/2022 at 08:06, team tractor said:

When our workshop was broken into we had the neighbouring house ring the police . They told her it’s not and emergency and to ring 101 😮.

£12,000 it cost in tooling 

They didn’t manage to steal anything in our yard, but caused thousands of pounds worth of damage. 
They obviously didn’t even have the brains to work out how the tailgate worked ( there’s even a diagram! ) and had tried to cut through it! 

[team tractor]

18 minutes ago, Scully said:

They didn’t manage to steal anything in our yard, but caused thousands of pounds worth of damage. 
They obviously didn’t even have the brains to work out how the tailgate worked ( there’s even a diagram! ) and had tried to cut through it! 

3 times in 5 years we were done 😢. The insurance said we had to move in the end