Anyone Had A Jammed Ignition , If So What Was The Outcome PLEASE ?

[marsh man]

This morning I set off as per normal with no problems , had my walk with my dog and stopped off at the village shop to get my newspaper on the way home , everything was fine and reversed up my driveway again with no problems , a hour later when I was going out again I put the key in my ignition and no way could I turn the key , tried moving the steering wheel while flicking the key and nothing , to cut a long story short , my car is still on the driveway and a locksmith is coming to try and sort it out in the morning .

Have YOU had the same sort of problem and if so what was the outcome ?

Edited September 9, 2022 by marsh man

[eggy74]

Something in the barrel? Spray the barrel with a jet of compressed air and try the key again 

[ninjaferret]

It isn't automatic is it ? Left in gear ?

Try a spare key, perhaps the key is just worn....

[marsh man]

14 minutes ago, ninjaferret said:

It isn't automatic is it ? Left in gear ?

Try a spare key, perhaps the key is just worn....

No it is manual , I did try the spare key and that was the same , strange as my key wouldn't lock , or unlock it during the week ,used the spare key which was fine and renewed the battery in the key fob and all was fine until it gave up the ghost this morning .

[ninjaferret]

Make and model ?

As i am admittedly a very close link to meanderthol man, try a sharp tap with a hammer to the end of the barrel, just see.

Oh sorry should have said without the key in, looking at it you can't hurt anything....

[marsh man]

5 minutes ago, ninjaferret said:

Make and model ?

As i am admittedly a very close link to meanderthol man, try a sharp tap with a hammer to the end of the barrel, just see.

Oh sorry should have said without the key in, looking at it you can't hurt anything....

Honda CR-V , With being a brick layer , Will a lump hammer do ? 

[ninjaferret]

17 minutes ago, marsh man said:

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Wey aye that would be ok,  How often has your spare key been used ? I'm thinking either a sticky or worn key inside the barrel or perhaps both keys are worn , but honestly try a good tap with a hammer, i've seen it work before.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Interesting, I wonder what the Locksmith will find?

I hope it's a simple fix and not too expensive John.

[wyn]

I get a similar problem with my ignition.   Dust and dirt gets on the key blade and then into the lock and jams it.

A bit of spray lube onto the key and in the lock might help.  If you can get it to unlock you really need to remove the locking barrel and give it a clean.  I have used white spirit in a jar and drop the barrel in and swirl it around to clean it. It's suprising what comes out.

If you can't unlock it then you're down to a new ignition mechanism and keys etc. I had to chisel the safety bolts around on mine to remove it.

I did bodge something to turn the switch and held the fob in the right place with an elastic band.  It did make it look like i'd stolen it until new bits were fitted.

Edited September 10, 2022 by wyn

[ninjaferret]

Well what did the locksmith find ?????

[Centrepin]

Only once with a Discovery II, 2004 model. Called Green Flag, the "driver/recovery" man, took one look, hit it with a 2lb lump hammer. Never had a problem again. Sold it for a new Volvo in 2005 with the same key.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

1 hour ago, ninjaferret said:

Well what did the locksmith find ?????

I'm only guessing, but maybe MarshMan is locked out of the house as well!  

[adzyvilla]

I had a sticky ignition  barrel in a seat Leon. It seemed to get some gunk in it and you either couldn't get the key in or it wouldn't turn. A tiny squirt of graphite spray and a gentle bit of manipulation with either the key or a thin bladed screwdriver did the trick

[marsh man]

3 hours ago, ninjaferret said:

Well what did the locksmith find ?????

 

1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

I'm only guessing, but maybe MarshMan is locked out of the house as well!  

Have no fear I am back up and running and had a very narrow escape when I nearly dropped the lump hammer on my foot , so although ninaferret done his best , it really wasn't much help 

The locksmith came round mine in his car , when he first got out he didn't really look like a clued up locksmith to work on motors with his long hair and a roll up in his mouth , how wrong I was to judge the person by looks .

He had a quick look in my motor and then said I will get some tools out , he first got a smart looking box out that a brain surgeon would had been pleased with , he tried a couple of flat keys that had some very small arms on , within a couple of minutes he tried my key and way it went , he then asked me to drive it to the middle of my driveway to give him a bit more room , out came another box of tools and within a few minutes he had the lock barrel exposed , the next job was a bit tricky in getting the roll pins out , this involved his drill and more little gadgets before he got the pins out and then removed the barrel , he tried my keys and the problem was more with my keys than it was with the lock , back to his motor and put all my car details into his computer , he then cut me a new key with his high tec key cutter , this he tried and it worked a treat , he then tried my spare and that was worse than the one I used all the time , so out came another blank and two minutes later I had new key number two , one thing he mentioned was he believed the spare key that Timpons cut had been cut from my key and not by the cars details with my new key being half used before I had put it in the ignition and that cost me at the time just over £80 with a special offer of twenty per cent taking off which without would had been £100.

He was happy with the result and then started to put everything back together and before long he had everything back and the next thing was to write the bill out .

I was expecting the worse , with call out charge , two new keys cut and the labour , much to my surprise it was £95.00 for the lot , Call out £20 , Labour £40 , Two Keys £20 and to cut them £15 , well worth the £100 I gave him , if anyone local and need a locksmith for both cars , and any household items with locks on then please get in touch and I will pass his details on.

Footnote , Took the motor out teatime and the starting with the key was the best it have ever been . 

[Peteg]

If you could pass on his details to me. I’m in Acle an could do with a spare key made for the wife’s Tt at some point

[ninjaferret]

Aye maybe the ninjaferret wasn't right with the hammer but i did say both keys worn ..... And if i'd known you had got the spare cut from the original i'd have got it spot on as i'd done the same myself.... once.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Well it was worth a try and good that you found a chap who was able to sort it out for a very reasonable charge.  

[Ian willetts]

Similar happened to me a good few years Back I had a very transporter nout flash work van lent to a mate to move some furniture he brought it back next day trying to start it key tuned everything lit up no response from the engine van was going no where I called a mobile lock smith the key had a transponder in it like a grain of rice was how he described it same as you mm into his van logged van details in cut key up and running it cost me £100 well worth it he was from teeside I am near Durham and it was a Sunday he was worth his weight in gold pleased you got sorted marshman 

[marsh man]

10 hours ago, Peteg said:

If you could pass on his details to me. I’m in Acle an could do with a spare key made for the wife’s Tt at some point

I most certainly will , when I get home later on today I will send you all his details , address , telephone ect .

 

8 hours ago, ninjaferret said:

Aye maybe the ninjaferret wasn't right with the hammer but i did say both keys worn ..... And if i'd known you had got the spare cut from the original i'd have got it spot on as i'd done the same myself.... once.

At the time I got the new cut off of the original I thought this was the way it was done, as it worked all right ( then ) I had no reason to think otherwise, like they say , you never stop learning , THANKS for your help anyhow. 

3 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Well it was worth a try and good that you found a chap who was able to sort it out for a very reasonable charge.  

Morning Dave , Yes there are some clever people about , finding them is the hard bit .

25 minutes ago, Ian willetts said:

Similar happened to me a good few years Back I had a very transporter nout flash work van lent to a mate to move some furniture he brought it back next day trying to start it key tuned everything lit up no response from the engine van was going no where I called a mobile lock smith the key had a transponder in it like a grain of rice was how he described it same as you mm into his van logged van details in cut key up and running it cost me £100 well worth it he was from teeside I am near Durham and it was a Sunday he was worth his weight in gold pleased you got sorted marshman 

Morning Ian..   Like you say they are worth there weight in gold , you take your motor for granted to get from A to B and being without it for a couple of days seem to create all sorts of problems , yesterday we needed some provisions , so after taking my dog out for an hour, I had a cup of tea , read the paper and walked down the road to the village bus stop , the bus should had came five past the hour and five past the half hour , I was well in time and after waiting over 20 minutes the novelty was already wearing off I decided to walk down to the next bus stop as standing about to long start to play my back up , anyhow , rather than bore you with the ins and out I ended up walking from mine to the town which is over three miles , I done my little bit of shopping and walked another half a mile to the main bus stop , my bus was going in about ten minutes so at least I didn't have to walk all the way back home , or so I thought .

The bus left on time and got just to the edge of the town when it came up against heavy traffic that was going nowhere , I sat on the bus for a good twenty minutes and we had hardly moved , by now I was getting hot as the bus only had small windows , as we had stopped near traffic lights I got back up and asked the driver if I could get off as it was going to be quicker if I walked , so off I got and walked down to our main bridge to get over the river , this was where the problem was with the traffic jams as the wooden blocks on the bridge had swelled up and lifted up by well over a foot so no traffic could get out of the town by the main bridge they all had to go over the by pass bridge .

So nearly a hour later I was back home again after walking nearly eight miles to get a loaf of bread , milk and few odds and ends , time for a quick cuppa before walking my dog around our cresent and wait for the saint with his box of tricks , with me now coming up to 75 I am grateful I can still walk that far , but like you say these people are worth there weight in gold to get you back on the road 

[amateur]

The trek for food demonstrates that you need a pushbike, or better still, a motorbike as backup

[Ian willetts]

Like you say mm without your transport your snookered like you Iam a tradesman a plasterer so me using the other half’s car for work was a big no no and little chores become a lot harder it’s just as well you kept your self active and fit for your trip into town on shanksys pony I wouldn’t like or know the public transport timetables I am in a little pit Vilage so to use it to get to work it would be a nightmare so our vehicle becomes the most important tool in the box like yours I learned a important lesson don’t lend your motor out favour or not you take care making sure your motor is serviced and running right but when it’s electric or sensor your buggerd 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

5 hours ago, marsh man said:

So nearly a hour later I was back home again after walking nearly eight miles to get a loaf of bread , milk and few odds and ends , time for a quick cuppa before walking my dog around our cresent and wait for the saint with his box of tricks , with me now coming up to 75 I am grateful I can still walk that far

Just like the "good old days"  

[marsh man]

15 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Just like the "good old days"  

Quite possibly , my father never had a car in his life and push biked everywhere , when he came out of the Royal Navy he went to work on the nearby railway , this wasn't that far away from where we lived then and to bike it was no problem at all , then when he was just over 60 we moved from Yarmouth to Gorleston which was about a good three miles from his work place , again it wasn't a problem , it only started to get him down when he went on three shifts , the 6 to 2 and the 2 to 10 were alright it was the nights he didn't like , I can still see him now jumping on his bike in the depth of Winter as he was coming up for retirement and putting his waterproofs on when it was snowing or raining , needless to say he called it a day as soon as he turned 65 and enjoyed his retirement until he passed away at nearly 80 , he never went beating but we have had several beaters over the years who were edging towards 80 and were fitter than some of the younger ones , it was the exercise that kept them going and not forgetting plenty of fresh air. 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

So now you really must walk in to town at least twice a month!