Penelope Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 A very interesting watch on Netflix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 just another person out to make money....dont trust anything i see from u-tube.....u-tube is there for a reason....it isnt there to tell the truth its there to fool people to make money...............fine if you like bedtime stories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 Amazing program realy enjoyed it . Amazing how all those years ago they followed the stars and built things to aline an now computers to work out different star alinement all those years ago . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted November 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ditchman said: just another person out to make money....dont trust anything i see from u-tube.....u-tube is there for a reason....it isnt there to tell the truth its there to fool people to make money...............fine if you like bedtime stories It's not Youtube, that just the trailer for a Netflix series. If you have Netflix it is well worth the watch and some thought provoking ideas. Edited November 17, 2022 by Penelope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 I quite enjoyed it - would have prefered a bit more in depth - it aligns with Sirius during these years etc.... They worked it out - show it - especially those ones on Malta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 Graham is a good speaker and I have several of his books which can be quite rambling but also interesting. "Modern Egyptology" and "Modern historians" grew out of the Victorian\Presbyterian Concensus that we are the most advanced civilisation ever on the planet (and perhaps after 1900 we arguably are) and that going back in time, people were "primatives" and shows like this demonstrate that previous civilisations could do and apply advanced astro physics, maths, geometry, building, metal work etc and that but for the sake of (normally war) wiping out civilisations we might have been much further along as a species much quicker. The human race has gone through multiple 'enlightenments' on various continents and then slid back down into survival mode. The Antikythera mechanism, Baghdad battery, Disk of Sabu, etc, etc all demonstrate that at certain points at least some people in different cultures, understood and could apply what most people, on their own, in modern society would struggle to understand and create. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem260 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Stonepark said: Graham is a good speaker and I have several of his books which can be quite rambling but also interesting. "Modern Egyptology" and "Modern historians" grew out of the Victorian\Presbyterian Concensus that we are the most advanced civilisation ever on the planet (and perhaps after 1900 we arguably are) and that going back in time, people were "primatives" and shows like this demonstrate that previous civilisations could do and apply advanced astro physics, maths, geometry, building, metal work etc and that but for the sake of (normally war) wiping out civilisations we might have been much further along as a species much quicker. The human race has gone through multiple 'enlightenments' on various continents and then slid back down into survival mode. The Antikythera mechanism, Baghdad battery, Disk of Sabu, etc, etc all demonstrate that at certain points at least some people in different cultures, understood and could apply what most people, on their own, in modern society would struggle to understand and create. Hasn't most of our advancements come from war and off shoots of the armaments industry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 18 hours ago, Rem260 said: Hasn't most of our advancements come from war and off shoots of the armaments industry? Very much so , mans greatest technological advancements have come about as he seeks more efficient ways to kill his neighbours. 21 hours ago, Penelope said: If you have Netflix it is well worth the watch and some thought provoking ideas. I watched the first episode last night, and while the title is a little misleading , its a fascinating look at what lies beneath us. Ive long been interested in the possibility of advanced civilisations that predate what we accept as the norm. I was taught at school that civilisation (cities, organised society ect) started 5000 years ago in Sumer (modern Iraq) between the fertile crescent of the Tigris and Euphrates. However, its since been proved that many other civilisations pre dated Sumer, including Egypt, and some Chinese and Indian states. Its interesting to note that with Egypt and Sumer , the totally different climate to what they have in the present , played a huge part in their success, and not an internal combustion engine or coal fired power station in sight.... Other signs of civilisation include the 5000 year old (and very remote) Skara Brae on the Orkneys , and Dolní Věstonice in the Czech republic, there are many more examples of organisation towards common goals , like the building of Stonehenge, by people we used to see as little more than grunting cavemen. The Film Iceman (2017) tells a fascinating story about how life may have been in these times, and is based on some facts ...... Most of the western world does , or has at some point had Christianity as its premier religion, for those unaware, the Bible dates the beginning of the earths existence at around 6500 years old, with the Flood destroying the earth some 1500 years later, this you might notice doesnt give Noahs children a great deal of time to populate and start the civilisations of Egypt and Sumer, besides others. The problem this causes in modern times , is that before carbon dating (and wide spread atheism) the brick wall of 'Bible dates' and the idea of things pre dating Creation, was a real problem. The problem still persists today, as the programme suggests , there is real contention on how old evidence of civilisation can be...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 @Rewulf Watch on - goes back to 9000BC in some places 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve s×s Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 On 18/11/2022 at 13:25, discobob said: @Rewulf Watch on - goes back to 9000BC in some places 😳 9000bc, I wish someone would devote the same time & money on 2022 and sort out the dung pile we're in JMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 2 hours ago, steve s×s said: 9000bc, I wish someone would devote the same time & money on 2022 and sort out the dung pile we're in JMHO They are, but like Graham, we are having to try and break the current paradigm (climate con, COVID con, central banking fiat money con etc etc) and the current regime are censoring and deplatforming anyone who questions the current paradigm. Graham for instance very skillfully circles around the cause of the cataclysm 12,600 years ago (IE the real cause of the Younger Dryas) on his program as it would immediately get him frozen out, instead blaming meteorite impactors (and speculating on their origins) instead of the more likely scenario of our Sun undergoing a micro nova and would be the source of glass beads, platinum, electrical storms (snakes in the sky) and impactors capable of melting the ice sheet and producing the black extinction layer but which as noted is survivalable, if you have good shelter such as caves and an adequate (at least year long) food supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted November 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 18/11/2022 at 13:02, Rewulf said: Very much so , mans greatest technological advancements have come about as he seeks more efficient ways to kill his neighbours. I watched the first episode last night, and while the title is a little misleading , its a fascinating look at what lies beneath us. Ive long been interested in the possibility of advanced civilisations that predate what we accept as the norm. I was taught at school that civilisation (cities, organised society ect) started 5000 years ago in Sumer (modern Iraq) between the fertile crescent of the Tigris and Euphrates. However, its since been proved that many other civilisations pre dated Sumer, including Egypt, and some Chinese and Indian states. Its interesting to note that with Egypt and Sumer , the totally different climate to what they have in the present , played a huge part in their success, and not an internal combustion engine or coal fired power station in sight.... Other signs of civilisation include the 5000 year old (and very remote) Skara Brae on the Orkneys , and Dolní Věstonice in the Czech republic, there are many more examples of organisation towards common goals , like the building of Stonehenge, by people we used to see as little more than grunting cavemen. The Film Iceman (2017) tells a fascinating story about how life may have been in these times, and is based on some facts ...... Most of the western world does , or has at some point had Christianity as its premier religion, for those unaware, the Bible dates the beginning of the earths existence at around 6500 years old, with the Flood destroying the earth some 1500 years later, this you might notice doesnt give Noahs children a great deal of time to populate and start the civilisations of Egypt and Sumer, besides others. The problem this causes in modern times , is that before carbon dating (and wide spread atheism) the brick wall of 'Bible dates' and the idea of things pre dating Creation, was a real problem. The problem still persists today, as the programme suggests , there is real contention on how old evidence of civilisation can be...... You need to watch the whole series, as the conclusion of the hypothesis is in the last episode. Look at the work of Randall Carlson; he has appeared on Joe Rogan's podcasts a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 On 19/11/2022 at 20:20, steve s×s said: 9000bc, I wish someone would devote the same time & money on 2022 and sort out the dung pile we're in JMHO Not to mention finding a replacement for lead shot which meets the specified four criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Penelope said: You need to watch the whole series, as the conclusion of the hypothesis is in the last episode. Look at the work of Randall Carlson; he has appeared on Joe Rogan's podcasts a few times. Im about 5 episodes in now, it gets better and better, and I think I see where hes going with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted November 21, 2022 Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Rewulf said: Im about 5 episodes in now, it gets better and better, and I think I see where hes going with it. Just don't look up 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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