oldypigeonpopper Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 (edited) Hello, You have to be careful of these Hare Coursers as on my friends farm they had a run in with a few and the police were involved, They came back at night and set alight tons of straw bales!!!! Edited March 30 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 1 minute ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, You have to be careful of these Hare Coursers as on my friends farm they had a run in with a few and the police were involved, They came back at night and set alight tons of straw bales!!!! Life in a rural area is now largely 'un-policed'. There are no local police stations (we used to have two within 2 miles both 24/7). Neither local town has a 24/7 police station now, one having a small police 'office' in the council offices for handing in lost property etc. It doesn't have any staff who 'go ouit' to incidents. The 'regional' police stations (around 9 miles away for me) are not staffed 24/7. The police are dispatched from around 15 miles away (unless there is one in the area for other things), so the response time is considerable - if they respond at all. There is virtually no chance of catching anyone 'red handed' as the offenders know that the response will be slow and they have time on their side. IF anything goes to trial, the accused can elect for trial by jury (for which there is a very long delay) and at the trial will produce a whole row of witnesses (from their community) who are prepared to swear that the accused were with them somewhere else when the incident took place. If they were not caught 'red handed' and the police are acting on evidence, a jury won't convict as an apparently sound alibi delivered 'under oath' gives 'reasonable doubt'. Trial by jury doesn't (and cannot) work well in a community that is prepared to lie under oath. It is virtually impossible to secure a conviction - and so no real attempts are made to do so as it is seen as a big waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 3 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, You have to be careful of these Hare Coursers as on my friends farm they had a run in with a few and the police were involved, They came back at night and set alight tons of straw bales!!!! Sadly not the first time i have heard of this or farmers being threatened some farmers shot every hare on there land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Bigbob said: Sadly not the first time i have heard of this or farmers being threatened some farmers shot every hare on there land It was (and probably still is) the same with badger diggers (captured and used for baiting/fighting with dogs in gambling activities). Been illegal for years, but still goes on in certain communities. We used to have a lot of badgers, but now very controlled (fully legally and by licensed persons) due to DEFRA TB prevention measures. Edited March 30 by JohnfromUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 I used to shoot the land adjacent to the estate where the 'Waterloo Cup ' was held. Obviously this attracted dog men from far and wide, some local, but a large number of travelling folk too. I never shot hares, but I was forced into doing that, after the Farmer was dragged from his tractor and beaten up for confronting a group of travelling folk. I used a rifle to virtually wipe out the hares on that land. Then, the local Council saw fit to erect a bridge across the river, which gave the illegal Hare coursers a crossing point to avoid getting wet. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 30 Report Share Posted March 30 2 hours ago, Westley said: I used to shoot the land adjacent to the estate where the 'Waterloo Cup ' was held. Obviously this attracted dog men from far and wide, some local, but a large number of travelling folk too. I never shot hares, but I was forced into doing that, after the Farmer was dragged from his tractor and beaten up for confronting a group of travelling folk. I used a rifle to virtually wipe out the hares on that land. Then, the local Council saw fit to erect a bridge across the river, which gave the illegal Hare coursers a crossing point to avoid getting wet. 🙄 We did the same on a local farm at the landowners request, purely to deter ‘travellers’ from traipsing all over his property. Doesn’t sound like travellers are responsible in this case though. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miserableolgit Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 We are in a coursing hot spot, the local constabulary take the crime seriously and will respond to reports very quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted March 31 Report Share Posted March 31 (edited) 14 hours ago, Scully said: Doesn’t sound like travellers are responsible in this case though. Edit Recheck facts further and incorrect conclusion so post removed. Edited March 31 by Yellow Bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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