12gauge82 Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 3 hours ago, johnphilip said: Will just leave this wee video for you to watch , what else is going on in French politics https://youtu.be/qid30PaEyQ8?si=aSDJoXrhtWvKLnUE That's crazy and yet all you hear in the media is how Trump is a criminal and therfore not fit to run the country. Why is nothing on the news about this 😳 2 hours ago, oowee said: Absolutely great opportunity for le Penn to stay out of it and appeal to the moderates whilst supporting the opposite view. You know my view on far right and far left politics they are two sides of the same coin. Pursuing an agenda of anti establishment whilst refusing to put forward an alternative agenda beyond the sound bites. Absolutely agreed oowee, extremists on either side are as bad as each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 9 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: I can understand why. It's not so much her current stated policys for me, many of them sound reasonable. But her farther and original political party, I know people can change and you shouldn't judge someone by their fathers standards, but rightly or wrongly I'm very suspicious of her true motivations. Yep, perpetual kampfzeit is the best “place” for her, better safe than sorry 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 26 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Yep, perpetual kampfzeit is the best “place” for her, better safe than sorry So you prefer to have the extreme hard line commies instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 6 hours ago, Rem260 said: This is in context to your constant running down of the last government. When asked for what you would do instead you either didn't reply or repeated your sound bites. I just thought your use of the phrase was ironic. Pursuing an agenda of anti establishment whilst refusing to put forward an alternative agenda beyond the sound bites. Ah I see. 🤣 I think you need to read a few more of my posts. In regard to immigration I would follow pretty much what labour are proposing. I would add compulsory ID cards, compulsory health insurance for visitors, reestablished the legal routes for migration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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12gauge82 Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 1 hour ago, oowee said: In regard to immigration I would follow pretty much what labour are proposing. I would add compulsory ID cards, compulsory health insurance for visitors, reestablished the legal routes for migration. I'd cards why? The rest of your solutions I agree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 14 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: I'd cards why? The rest of your solutions I agree with. Track and monitor. Everything can be on the card drivers licence, health, fac. Access to services. Purchase of goods. On line shopping. Tax and benefits. Location (but that's a tough one) blood, opt outs. Sounds a bit big brother but we have largely agreed this and more for others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 2 hours ago, Yellow Bear said: So you prefer to have the extreme hard line commies instead? No, I prefer something a bit more central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 2 hours ago, oowee said: Ah I see. 🤣 I think you need to read a few more of my posts. In regard to immigration I would follow pretty much what labour are proposing. I would add compulsory ID cards, compulsory health insurance for visitors, reestablished the legal routes for 1 hour ago, oowee said: Track and monitor. Everything can be on the card drivers licence, health, fac. Access to services. Purchase of goods. On line shopping. Tax and benefits. Location (but that's a tough one) blood, opt outs. Sounds a bit big brother but we have largely agreed this and more for others. Yes it sounds a bit big brother ! But how does that help with ILLEGAL migration ? It's like banning legally held firearms, so criminals can't use them 🤣 or banning illegal drugs, so nobody takes them. 2 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: No, I prefer something a bit more central. The central you speak of is considered by some as far right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 5 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Yes it sounds a bit big brother ! But how does that help with ILLEGAL migration ? It's like banning legally held firearms, so criminals can't use them 🤣 or banning illegal drugs, so nobody takes them. The central you speak of is considered by some as far right. On its own it would not do much. As part of a programme it would do more. All part of exposing the anonymous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 It’s just Newton’s third law, it swung right for a bit, now left, it’ll settle in equilibrium soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 A viewpoint from someone in France Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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