Vince Green Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 (edited) There is a story in the Guardian this morning which says that the Home Office (deliberately?) understated the cost of dealing with the migrants. They put forward a figure of £110 million when the true cost was around £2.6 billion. Rachel Reeves is blaming the last Tory government for everything but I'm not so sure. It's not the Tories that compiles the figures it's the Civil Servants We have seen those senior Home Office Civil Servants wriggling and squirming in front of a Committee recently. I could easily believe anything bad about those deceitful people. Would they have a reason to want to hide the extent of their incompetence? Of course they would. The point is now, will there be an enquiry? Will names be named? Will heads roll? Not a chance Edited August 29 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 (edited) To sum it up in one. Word. .............." NO" well only if your right wing leading Edited August 29 by johnphilip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve s×s Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 Didn't the French once have a thing to stop people like these, I seem to recall it worked very well (stopped re offending) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 29 Author Report Share Posted August 29 Just now, steve s×s said: Didn't the French once have a thing to stop people like these, I seem to recall it worked very well (stopped re offending) It would be an effective deterrent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 A far simpler remedy, stop all pay outs, new mobiles, health care etc to everyone who has not paid? Let the Herefords and our boaties out to play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 8 hours ago, Vince Green said: It's not the Tories that compiles the figures it's the Civil Servants It wasn't in the Tories interests to understate the figures either. They (Sunak and most of his cabinet) were trying hard against much opposition from Starmer, the Courts, the Woke, most of the so called 'Celebrities' who pontificate on migrants (and a fair bit from his own side) to get the Rwanda scheme up and running. The more they could show the huge costs of the immigrants - the better for getting the doubters (mainly those in his own party) to vote with his Gov't. In effect the Civil Service had (and probably still have) gone rogue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said: ........In effect the Civil Service had (and probably still have) gone rogue All as planned and instituted by Blair et al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 *Waits for Oowee’s reply* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 There is a clear divide in the west over the benefits of mass migration. For the super rich it is a huge plus, drives wages and employment rights down and has very little negative impact for them, as they don't have to suffer the increase in crime, use of public services or worry about devaluing of pensions as more and more illegals are given right to stay and become elderly. For everyone else it's a drain, drain on resources, public services, education, safety. But it also affects far more in loss of culture and identity. It goes to show who's really in control of the country, it's not the masses but the privileged few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 It appears a huge chunk of the £22 billion blackhole that we've all got to dig deeper for is going to pay for illegal migrants. If that doesn't stick in peoples throats, I don't know what will. https://youtu.be/cxUtZl4CqZw?si=48VkwA7GlPtRrKpL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 30 Author Report Share Posted August 30 Just now, 12gauge82 said: It appears a huge chunk of the £22 billion blackhole that we've all got to dig deeper for is going to pay for illegal migrants. If that doesn't stick in peoples throats, I don't know what will. https://youtu.be/cxUtZl4CqZw?si=48VkwA7GlPtRrKpL Good post But even that figure doesn't include all the costs The cost to the legal system for all the court time and legal aid associated with the asylum claims and appeals for one thing The cost to the NHS The cost to the education system None of these secondary costs are included in those figures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 1 hour ago, Vince Green said: Good post But even that figure doesn't include all the costs The cost to the legal system for all the court time and legal aid associated with the asylum claims and appeals for one thing The cost to the NHS The cost to the education system None of these secondary costs are included in those figures The figure for court interpreters for these cases I belive was over 12 million pounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted August 30 Author Report Share Posted August 30 14 minutes ago, johnphilip said: The figure for court interpreters for these cases I belive was over 12 million pounds And the interpreters for the NHS and even the local councils and the police have to employ interpreters. My stepdaughter is a housing officer for a London council and they have to use interpreters all the time. No other way to communicate with people. All these hidden costs have to be paid for but nobody is adding them all up together . They are spread out across different budgets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 And they do not try to learn English either. Try getting a job in Germany learn to speak and write German in 6 mths or loose job should be mandatory here to learn English would help in all communication areas and help integration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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