Bigbob Posted September 28 Report Share Posted September 28 One of the guys i worked with is from Israel and his wife is from Russia they lived in Israel for years in the police force then the army and they reckon the sore point is Hamas got the first blow in and Israel special forces didn't see it coming , he sent me videos of the attack and i can see why Israel wont stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 28 Report Share Posted September 28 6 minutes ago, Bigbob said: One of the guys i worked with is from Israel and his wife is from Russia they lived in Israel for years in the police force then the army and they reckon the sore point is Hamas got the first blow in and Israel special forces didn't see it coming , he sent me videos of the attack and i can see why Israel wont stop They have to stop at some point as does Hezbollah, Hamas, and Iran. The leadership of all sides clings to power (ala Putin) creating fear and hatred as a reason for their own existence. Families of the innocent pay the price of these wars with their blood and sooner or later they will refuse to pay. An all out war with Iran (backed by China) will have the world calling for peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 28 Author Report Share Posted September 28 15 minutes ago, oowee said: They have to stop at some point as does Hezbollah, Hamas, and Iran. The leadership of all sides clings to power (ala Putin) creating fear and hatred as a reason for their own existence. Families of the innocent pay the price of these wars with their blood and sooner or later they will refuse to pay. An all out war with Iran (backed by China) will have the world calling for peace. Israel will stop when it has killed or moved every last one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted September 28 Report Share Posted September 28 12 minutes ago, oowee said: They have to stop at some point as does Hezbollah, Hamas, and Iran. The leadership of all sides clings to power (ala Putin) creating fear and hatred as a reason for their own existence. Families of the innocent pay the price of these wars with their blood and sooner or later they will refuse to pay. An all out war with Iran (backed by China) will have the world calling for peace. Iraq and Iran, the biggest armies in the area once went to war against each other, they killed a couple of million on each side, roll on a few years and the west prepare to go to war against Iraq, they were expecting a tough fight against a war seasoned army, in the end it was like shooting fish in a barrel and the mighty Iraq army was pushed aside with ease. While Iran may have a big army they don't pose the threat that a modern well equipped army does, and Israel have the very best. China may back them but won't go to war for them, china has its own agenda, and when it wants to fight it will chose it's time(probably Taiwan). Just because you are a big army doest mean you will win, chat to Russia about their 2 day expected war and their major losses, a couple of years down the line. Israel has defended itself against multiple armies in the region attacking it in the past and kicked all their backsides. I agree that one day they will all have to talk for peace, but usually the victor decides when that is, and in Israel's case it looks like it will be after they destroy almost all of the terrorist infrastructure they can find,setting the said terrorists back many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted September 28 Report Share Posted September 28 14 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Israel will stop when it has killed or moved every last one of them. Yes because when they first attacked they where shooting at cars going down the road after they crashed they pulled the passengers out and shot them and Israel still hasnt got all the hostages back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted September 28 Report Share Posted September 28 There is no chance of Hammas or Hezbollah giving up as each child born of these groups is brainwashed to hate all non Islamists There have been pictures of boy / child soldiers of 4 yrs old brandishing AK47,s why can these children not be allowed to make up their own minds about who to love or hate.This is a medievil doctrine and not of the modern world and can only be brought into the 21st century if the leaders are removed And how many of those cars they fired on contained non Isrealis bet they could not care less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 28 Report Share Posted September 28 25 minutes ago, welsh1 said: Iraq and Iran, the biggest armies in the area once went to war against each other, they killed a couple of million on each side, roll on a few years and the west prepare to go to war against Iraq, they were expecting a tough fight against a war seasoned army, in the end it was like shooting fish in a barrel and the mighty Iraq army was pushed aside with ease. While Iran may have a big army they don't pose the threat that a modern well equipped army does, and Israel have the very best. China may back them but won't go to war for them, china has its own agenda, and when it wants to fight it will chose it's time(probably Taiwan). Just because you are a big army doest mean you will win, chat to Russia about their 2 day expected war and their major losses, a couple of years down the line. Israel has defended itself against multiple armies in the region attacking it in the past and kicked all their backsides. I agree that one day they will all have to talk for peace, but usually the victor decides when that is, and in Israel's case it looks like it will be after they destroy almost all of the terrorist infrastructure they can find,setting the said terrorists back many years. I would not disagree. Other than it's often the growing opposition to conflict that calls for peace either through protest or the ballot box. Leaving unfinished business. Half completed campaigns. Political vacuums that grow new poison. Neither side can 'win'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 29 Author Report Share Posted September 29 9 hours ago, oowee said: I would not disagree. Other than it's often the growing opposition to conflict that calls for peace either through protest or the ballot box. Leaving unfinished business. Half completed campaigns. Political vacuums that grow new poison. Neither side can 'win'. But Israel have far more chance of winning this war. They have systematically sought out the weapon building and launching sites, the tunnels, the hiding behind civilians sites and then the leadership of their enemies. I wonder how many rockets are being built right now? Are Hamas, Hezbollah and any one else who wants to eradicate the Jews from the face of the earth not able to see it can NEVER happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted September 29 Report Share Posted September 29 I think you have to change Iran fundamentally. They’re still trying to develop nuclear weapons and their only “real” aim seems to be wiping Israel off the map. Until they change, Israel won’t feel safe. I foresee the Iranian Islamic Guards’ assorted bunkers turning to glass, forcing the Iranian religious leadership to either change its tune pretty quickly, or else go the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 29 Report Share Posted September 29 We have forgotten how the world has to tiptoe round that unadulterated nutter in North Korea. Imagine adding Iran as a nuclear power into that mix and a good slug of the most nutty religious fanatics on the planet with a sole objective of wiping Israel off the map… Israel is doing the world’s heavy lifting in the epicentre of nuttyness and all the high minded hand washers get out of the streets with their genocidal placards cheering on religious terror groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 29 Author Report Share Posted September 29 3 minutes ago, Mungler said: We have forgotten how the world has to tiptoe round that unadulterated nutter in North Korea. Imagine adding Iran as a nuclear power into that mix and a good slug of the most nutty religious fanatics on the planet with a sole objective of wiping Israel off the map… Israel is doing the world’s heavy lifting in the epicentre of nuttyness and all the high minded hand washers get out of the streets with their genocidal placards cheering on religious terror groups. Yes, they should be applauded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted September 29 Report Share Posted September 29 Good for Israel is my thought. They have and continue to show that Islams hatred of non believers is not going to cow them. The simple message is they are not to be messed with and retribution will be visited upon anyone who attacks them- regardless of what is said about them. Part of my thinking is that Israeli forces decently wear a uniform whilst their attackers disguise themselves as civilians, and hide themselves and equipment amongst civilians, and most of the media only show 'civilian victims'. We don't get to see any uniformed 'victims' or damage done to Israeli infrastructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 29 Author Report Share Posted September 29 1 minute ago, Dave-G said: Good for Israel is my thought. They have and continue to show that Islams hatred of non believers is not going to cow them. The simple message is they are not to be messed with and retribution will be visited upon anyone who attacks them- regardless of what is said about them. Part of my thinking is that Israeli forces decently wear a uniform whilst their attackers disguise themselves as civilians, and hide themselves and equipment amongst civilians, and most of the media only show 'civilian victims'. We don't get to see any uniformed 'victims' or damage done to Israeli infrastructure. Think back to when the Israeli troops moved in to various hospitals and found weapons and kit, NOTHING like fighting fairly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 29 Author Report Share Posted September 29 More rockets being fired from Lebanon towards Israel. I suspect the Israelis will retaliate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 29 Report Share Posted September 29 5 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: More rockets being fired from Lebanon towards Israel. I suspect the Israelis will retaliate. Russia's prime minister is going to Iran for a meeting ....read into that ..what you want.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 30 Author Report Share Posted September 30 8 hours ago, ditchman said: Russia's prime minister is going to Iran for a meeting ....read into that ..what you want.. I read in to that "TWO NUTTERS GETTING THEIR HEADS TOGETHER" Yes this will probably mean more trouble for the West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: I read in to that "TWO NUTTERS GETTING THEIR HEADS TOGETHER" Yes this will probably mean more trouble for the West. divide (the west) and conquor.........? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 23 hours ago, Mungler said: We have forgotten how the world has to tiptoe round that unadulterated nutter in North Korea. Imagine adding Iran as a nuclear power into that mix and a good slug of the most nutty religious fanatics on the planet with a sole objective of wiping Israel off the map… Israel is doing the world’s heavy lifting in the epicentre of nuttyness and all the high minded hand washers get out of the streets with their genocidal placards cheering on religious terror groups. 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 30 Author Report Share Posted September 30 I bet Naim Qassem is in a deep hole underground with lots of civilians above him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 1 Author Report Share Posted October 1 More Israeli attacks overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 1 Author Report Share Posted October 1 Posted earlier on X by the Israeli Defence Forces. "In accordance with the decision of the political echelon, a few hours ago, the IDF began limited, localized, and targeted ground raids based on precise intelligence against Hezbollah terrorist targets and infrastructure in southern Lebanon. These targets are located in villages close to the border and pose an immediate threat to Israeli communities in northern Israel. The IDF is operating according to a methodical plan set out by the General Staff and the Northern Command which IDF soldiers have trained and prepared for in recent months. The Israeli Air Force and IDF Artillery are supporting the ground forces with precise strikes on military targets in the area." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted October 1 Report Share Posted October 1 Israel wont stop now they stirred the beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 1 Report Share Posted October 1 looks like things are kicking off a bit more now...Iran is lauching balistic missiles now 12 min run time 5 mins to go............... hope the iron dome works proper.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted October 1 Report Share Posted October 1 I wonder if the IDF will go straight for the head in Iran, or focus on the Republican Guard? Or both… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 1 Report Share Posted October 1 well..........the iron dome is not infalible ...it looks/appears many missiles got thro..... lets see what the response is..........i suspect it will be brutal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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