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Hello, It is sad that once good quality English made shotguns are now selling for such prices, I had a Army and Navy 12 bore XXV , Made for a Navy  Officer, The advent of the O/U started the decline i reckon back in the late 1970s/80s as many i know went from their AYAs to Browning/ Miroku etc

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15 hours ago, London Best said:

Personally, I would stick with the fierce ejection.
The whole point of an ejector is to clear the chambers for a faster reload. There is little more annoying during a hot corner than to find that one or both empties have not cleared the chamber when you are trying to drop another cartridge in whilst watching approaching birds.

I think that you are right, to have the gun as it was intended to be so I'll get a "blank" from chambers and make up and fit a replacement spring. If needs be I'll load up some paper cases and leave them in a damp jacket pocket for a few weeks to correctly regulate the ejecting distance ! It may be that I remove the springs at times to suit where I am shooting but they will be there for the next custodian.

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Clarity.
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1 hour ago, kevin55 said:

Very interesting to read all this and see what can be done with a very cheap auction find

Was the rust easy to remove without damaging the metal?

 

Most of the rust just brushed off but I'm quite a fan of boiling rusty items in distilled water for half an hour to convert any remaining rusty pockets to black Ferric Oxide which is soft and easy to brush away. It does seem to enhance any remaining blueing or other surface treatment as well. A smear of Vaseline finishes the job. 

I forgot another simple but elegant detail of the action, the safety actuating arm is almost sculptural in its simplicity.

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And another thing, the strikers are, to me, very small at about 13.5mm long and have worn to very slightly different lengths so I'll make up two new ones. The action is a non-rebounding type so there are no small springs behind the strikers which means having to carefully tilt the gun backwards after firing and before opening it. I'm hoping that by cunningly shaping the striker tip the empty case passing it will reliably push it back.

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2 hours ago, Velocette said:

And another thing, the strikers are, to me, very small at about 13.5mm long and have worn to very slightly different lengths so I'll make up two new ones. The action is a non-rebounding type so there are no small springs behind the strikers which means having to carefully tilt the gun backwards after firing and before opening it. I'm hoping that by cunningly shaping the striker tip the empty case passing it will reliably push it back.

Army and Navy Striker.JPG

I thought all leaf spring guns had rebounding hammers?

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That was a complete attack of brain fade !! You are quite right, there should be springs in there,,,,,and there were,,,,just stuck in another magnetic dish that I put parts in and didn't notice and jumped to strange conclusions about the action. Must pay more attention !!!!!

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8 minutes ago, Velocette said:

That was a complete attack of brain fade !! You are quite right, there should be springs in there,,,,,and there were,,,,just stuck in another magnetic dish that I put parts in and didn't notice and jumped to strange conclusions about the action. Must pay more attention !!!!!

By George I think he's human, admits to minor mistakes and takes it all in his stride, a revelation................:good:

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