EU and Uk leaders out of touch with public opinion. Time for a reset.

[100milesaway]

This country has a huge problem, most of it can be attributed  to parent's who  think their little darlings are so talented that nothing less than a brain surgeon or similar will be a good enough vocation which leaves a whole couple of generations with huge egos and entitlement off the scale. When I had my travel business I refused to employ anyone under the age of forty. We need parents to accept that if you have a thick kid sending it onto further education will not be the answer and all the while you are funding them you are a big part of the problem..

From Auntie 

[Mungler]

16 hours ago, oowee said:

Record numbers returned since they took the thousand staff working on the Rwanda tour and put them on the repatriation program. 👍

Lots to do. 

Are you joking?

Conservatives let a million in, return 1, labour return 2 say by accident and then let in 1.2 million.

But we’re told by MSM that Labour return ‘record numbers’ or ‘100% more returned than the conservatives’ - that’s lying by omission plain and simple.

Do post a link to the underlying stats so we can check to see if you’re spreading a lie.

And of course if you let 30,000 arrive on the beaches (alone) and send back 5,000, you’re still significantly failing.

From day 1 the images of the RNLI  shepherding in boat after boat of foreign men of military age just never made any sense to me, and it’s still happening now - why? How? With the £500m we give France each year we should have completed the Rwanda project - they arrive, they get flown to Rwanda for processing and by 6 months time people don’t try, unless they like the idea of a flight to Rwanda and entering a processing scheme with tough criteria and which at the very least requires them to properly identify themselves and identify what skills they bring to meet the entry criteria.

Whilst in Rwanda, we can run integration classes and courses - my cousin when he got his green card, as well as swearing allegiance to the flag he had to pass an American history and a constitution test and it was all in English.

Again, there needs to be better control of the blob else the lazy dreamy left wing machinery of the civil service will set the entry criteria to ‘must have a vowel in name given’.  

[Raja Clavata]

16 hours ago, Mungler said:

We’re actually in agreement. Measured legal migration through the right channels to ensure we get the right people who can contribute - why not, but query the level. 

Illegal migration, that needs stopping and I have no idea why someone hasn’t got a hold of it. If we have to leave the ECHR then so be it. If we need a Rwanda, then get it done. If we need to blockage and push the boats back to France, then do that. But this isn’t a conservative v. Labour issue - both have failed and continued to fail and in the face of massive public support for getting something done and the issue addressed.

Beyond my reservations about Rwanda I agree. It seems to be a systemic cross party failure.

Whilst Farage and co. appear committed to solve the issue one does wonder what other issues they’d create if placed in a position of power to do so.

[johnphilip]

4 hours ago, Mungler said:

Are you joking?

Conservatives let a million in, return 1, labour return 2 say by accident and then let in 1.2 million.

But we’re told by MSM that Labour return ‘record numbers’ or ‘100% more returned than the conservatives’ - that’s lying by omission plain and simple.

Do post a link to the underlying stats so we can check to see if you’re spreading a lie.

And of course if you let 30,000 arrive on the beaches (alone) and send back 5,000, you’re still significantly failing.

From day 1 the images of the RNLI  shepherding in boat after boat of foreign men of military age just never made any sense to me, and it’s still happening now - why? How? With the £500m we give France each year we should have completed the Rwanda project - they arrive, they get flown to Rwanda for processing and by 6 months time people don’t try, unless they like the idea of a flight to Rwanda and entering a processing scheme with tough criteria and which at the very least requires them to properly identify themselves and identify what skills they bring to meet the entry criteria.

Whilst in Rwanda, we can run integration classes and courses - my cousin when he got his green card, as well as swearing allegiance to the flag he had to pass an American history and a constitution test and it was all in English.

Again, there needs to be better control of the blob else the lazy dreamy left wing machinery of the civil service will set the entry criteria to ‘must have a vowel in name given’.  

 

This explains  the figures more. Clearly,  and to some. Degree, explains  how we are been lied. To. Quite a long video.

https://youtu.be/pWKy9ZuOaro?si=aCnmgAKZNK22IkPM

[Penelope]

On 14/12/2024 at 11:59, Mungler said:

The thing about remoaners is that I haven’t met one yet who isn’t singularly driven by a return to the EU based on their wanting easier European travel and shorter queues at the airports - they’ll hide it a little but a thin scrape of the surface revealing their own ‘higher status’ view of themselves as European and how Brexit has really screwed their holiday home plans. 

That generally nails it when you drill down.

[Mungler]

12 minutes ago, johnphilip said:

 

This explains  the figures more. Clearly,  and to some. Degree, explains  how we are been lied. To. Quite a long video.

https://youtu.be/pWKy9ZuOaro?si=aCnmgAKZNK22IkPM

We’re all on the same page; he goes after the definition and use of the word ‘removed’ and the Guardian of course deliberately and incorrectly use the word ‘deport’.

The government stats are BS and only morons cheer them on. 

2 minutes ago, Penelope said:

That generally nails it when you drill down.

It is isn’t it.

Normally it’s lefty retirees who had plans for 4+ months a year somewhere in Europe and who wish to project higher status opinions in their circles - ‘I’m educated and consider any discussion about borders and immigration below my status’ (and of course because they are untroubled in their lives and predominantly white post codes). 

[JohnfromUK]

I see that our leader has a team of 100 Civil servants working to tighten our ties to the EU.

Now not only have we left (in name anyway) - but the two of the EUs most important (both economically and  politically) are both in BIG troubles internally, especially economically. 

The EU doesn't 'have' any money of it's own - but consumes it in vast quantities and always seeking more - which have traditionally been paid by a small group of the 'stronger' countries Germany, France, Italy (and including in the past, the UK).  Germany was by far the largest, followed by France, but both are in troubles politically (basically minority governments paralysed by opposition majorities) and economically.

So our great leader wants to ties us in much more closely to this sinking ship!

[London Best]

1 hour ago, JohnfromUK said:

I see that our leader has a team of 100 Civil servants working to tighten our ties to the EU.

Now not only have we left (in name anyway) - but the two of the EUs most important (both economically and  politically) are both in BIG troubles internally, especially economically. 

The EU doesn't 'have' any money of it's own - but consumes it in vast quantities and always seeking more - which have traditionally been paid by a small group of the 'stronger' countries Germany, France, Italy (and including in the past, the UK).  Germany was by far the largest, followed by France, but both are in troubles politically (basically minority governments paralysed by opposition majorities) and economically.

So our great leader wants to ties us in much more closely to this sinking ship!

A bit like jumping off the Titanic with a rope attached.