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[clangerman]

22 minutes ago, Mice! said:

I'm not 50 yet either so don't fall into the old person category like a lot on here, yes things were very different back in the 80s but I don't think they were worse.

there is never much improvement it’s always more of the same for most people it’s how the gov keep them under control kids round here can only dream of the life my grandchildren have which is both unfair and wrong 

[Mice!]

30 minutes ago, clangerman said:

there is never much improvement it’s always more of the same for most people it’s how the gov keep them under control kids round here can only dream of the life my grandchildren have which is both unfair and wrong 

Yes and no, if your willing to work then in my opinion you'll make something of your life, expecting to just have things handed to you then life will be tough.

[bruno22rf]

4 hours ago, sitsinhedges said:

How are your kidneys holding up now? I didn't think transplants lasted forever. 

Mine will be 20 years this June but is struggling, at the moment it's keeping me from Dialysis but only just, on the other hand I met a lady in clinic last week who's transplant was 25 years old and still functioning to an almost normal level. Oldest recipient in MK was transplanted in 1968 and still working.

[sitsinhedges]

8 minutes ago, bruno22rf said:

Mine will be 20 years this June but is struggling, at the moment it's keeping me from Dialysis but only just, on the other hand I met a lady in clinic last week who's transplant was 25 years old and still functioning to an almost normal level. Oldest recipient in MK was transplanted in 1968 and still working.

Can you have another? You still have a lot of years ahead of you hopefully. 

[bruno22rf]

3 hours ago, sitsinhedges said:

Can you have another? You still have a lot of years ahead of you hopefully. 

TBH, 20 years of constant infections caused by a surgical mistake a few weeks after the Transplant has damaged my heart so it would be down to the Renal team to decide if I am fit enough to undergo another Transplant. Had major heart surgery November before last that caused total Renal failure so was in intensive care for 3 months, the Organ has miraculously picked itself up and is currently keeping me alive but my Renal consultant has said that I should prepare for Dialysis again at some point in the near future. To answer you question - yes, if your health allows it you can have several Transplants of the same Organ.

[sitsinhedges]

11 hours ago, bruno22rf said:

TBH, 20 years of constant infections caused by a surgical mistake a few weeks after the Transplant has damaged my heart so it would be down to the Renal team to decide if I am fit enough to undergo another Transplant. Had major heart surgery November before last that caused total Renal failure so was in intensive care for 3 months, the Organ has miraculously picked itself up and is currently keeping me alive but my Renal consultant has said that I should prepare for Dialysis again at some point in the near future. To answer you question - yes, if your health allows it you can have several Transplants of the same Organ.

Genuinely sorry to hear that. Fingers crossed that you get a decent outcome 🤞

[Genghis]

On 20/02/2025 at 13:52, Mice! said:

Yes and no, if your willing to work then in my opinion you'll make something of your life, expecting to just have things handed to you then life will be tough.

In 1990 the average house price was a touch under £60,000. In 2025 it is £260,000.

 

In 1990 the average salary was £15,000. In 2025 it is £37,000.

 

House prices have gone up by around 4.33 times but the average income has only gone up 2.5x.

 

It’s objectively harder to own property than it used to be.

 

Renting is even more expensive than a mortgage, which is why so many young people now house share.
 

I’m sure there are many lazy young people, but I’m not sure they are any lazier than they were in 1990. I grew up in the 90’s and I knew countless young adults who took pride in collecting dole money. At least these days they have to provide evidence that they have looked for work.
 

I sympathise with the genuine hard workers who are struggling to afford a mortgage. Working a 60 hour week to only be able to afford a house share with strangers is probably very disenchanting.

[Mice!]

55 minutes ago, Genghis said:

1990 the average house price was a touch under £60,000. In 2025 it is £260,000.

For what kind of house though? These days it seems people don't want to climb the ladder, £260,000 doesn't seem average to me, for a single or couple starting out then a two bed terraced is going to be a lot lot cheaper than that average. 

58 minutes ago, Genghis said:

I’m sure there are many lazy young people, but I’m not sure they are any lazier than they were in 1990. I grew up in the 90’s and I knew countless young adults who took pride in collecting dole money. At least these days they have to provide evidence that they have looked for work.

I'm sure your right, I was in the same boat knowing folk who were proud they didn't work, I could never understand it myself, but I doubt it's much different nowadays when it comes to job seekers.

[Windswept]

You also need to look at the mortgage rates and the total amount paid. Average in 1990 was about 14%, today about 4%. Houses are the prices they are because people can afford them.

I started out in the 90s and in a well paid job but I any many of my friends house shared. 

 

[Newbie to this]

8 minutes ago, Windswept said:

You also need to look at the mortgage rates and the total amount paid. Average in 1990 was about 14%, today about 4%. Houses are the prices they are because we keep.importing people and don't inprove infrastructure, including housing stock.

I started out in the 90s and in a well paid job but I any many of my friends house shared. 

 

Fixed it

[Genghis]

25 minutes ago, Mice! said:

For what kind of house though? These days it seems people don't want to climb the ladder, £260,000 doesn't seem average to me, for a single or couple starting out then a two bed terraced is going to be a lot lot cheaper than that average.

The average is the mean in this instance - value of all houses sold divided by the number of houses sold. You’re right that a young single or couple in most instances wouldn’t be looking at that price range, but it also depends on where you live. Generally speaking, the further north you go the cheaper it gets.

 

If we look at a working class northern area, like Wigan.

 

Here is the property selling history for a 2 bedroom terrace house in a poorer area of Wigan.

 

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/details/england-18683872?s=aacbde020150e7e3ac3d86de9ca612ecc3da6bc0672b6097ca4cd300d0fc7367

 

This 2 bedroom terrace house sold for £18,000 in August 2001, was renovated and then sold for £21,250 in October 2001.

 

It then sold for £123,500 in 2023. That’s a 5.8x increase in the same time that wages only went up around 2x. You effectively would need nearly triple the income you would have needed in 2001 to buy the house now. It’s harder to take the first step on the property ladder than ever before.