monkeyboots Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 i recently bought a brand new fabarm euro 3 semi auto a lovely gun etc , but ive had a few problems with it jamming always fires the 1st shot then the empty cart, is getting stuck in the chamber , ive tried different shot sizes the only thing it seems to fire no bother is number 6, 36grms has any one else had a semi auto that would only take a 36grm load i think the teal and woodcock would be in bits if i used the number 6, 36grm loads on them i think ive had my day with semis and thinking of going for a o/u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 65mm or 70mm carts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 A common problem with some semis is that they prefer 70mm cartridges. It may be worth checking the cartridges that you have, it usually states the cartridge length on the box. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningBoy Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Had a 'mare last Sunday with my wife's 20g Semi Auto. Started fouling using Gamebore 24gram but was OK with Lyvale 28's. Eventually the 28's became a problem and we had to shoot the whole thing as singles as it wouldn't recycle. Was a massive pain as two ladies where using the gun, took an age to get around and massacred Anne's score. What we think it was; Shot 125 on the Friday and only cleaned the barrels. The mechanism had dried out and the more powerful shells could overcome this for a time until that too failed to work. Extensive cleaning and lubrication has now been applied and the action works far more smoothly. If you are shooting 32's it's probably sheer force keping things going this long, get some gun grease on the internal moving parts around the spring etc after a good clean and it'll probably be fine, going out later to run a box of 24's through the semi to prov the theory, will update later as to progress. TTFN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonna Shoot a Wabbit Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 It could possibly be where you oil the gun. On my beretta when i first got it i wiped the whole action and mechanism with WD40 in my naivety thinking all would be ok. Within 20shots it jammed repeatedly and upon inspection the internals were coated with a residue sludge. I now know to only apply oil to the bolt guide and receiver and nothing else. I use WD40 to clean the residue fouled internals after each session but it is wiped off and dried before putting away. In essence everything forward of the bolt is DRY before next outing. Since using this regime not one jammed cartridge and fired 180ish in one day in the autumn this year without jamming. Food for thought if nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 I love my Baikal MP-153, it's never jammed on me with anything I throw through it. People critise them for this that and the other but I'm sure thye think these things up when fixing their more expensive semi's :good: (Sorry, I couldn't resist). I hope you get it sorted though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted November 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 yes its 70mm carts im useing , gun has only fired about 300ish carts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Urika - never jammed...not once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningBoy Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 just run 25 24g's though no problem, fouling and lack of lubrication seems to have been the cause (for me at least) TTFN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 So the cartridges are 70mm, so, as has previously been said, the mechanism probably needs a good clean. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Im up to about 6000 carts through my Benelli M1 and in that time its jammed one cart, so pretty reliable. Just depends what semi-auto you buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusk2dawn Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 i recently bought a brand new fabarm euro 3 semi auto a lovely gun etc , but ive had a few problems with it jamming always fires the 1st shot then the empty cart, is getting stuck in the chamber , ive tried different shot sizes the only thing it seems to fire no bother is number 6, 36grms has any one else had a semi auto that would only take a 36grm load i think the teal and woodcock would be in bits if i used the number 6, 36grm loads on them i think ive had my day with semis and thinking of going for a o/u Hi MB I have had this with my Franchi out Pigeon shooting and was using it everyday it eventually developed the problem you described the answer I found was regular cleaning with Hoppes no9 Semi Auto fluid, no residue or gunk build up and its been fine now and hasnt played up since. I used the same on my Anshutz semi .22 which again has never jammed. D2D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 buy a raptor you are welcome to try mine anytime you want.you have pm mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 buy a Beretta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 i had a fabarm like yours...bought it second hand from a well known shooting ground no matter what i put through it, it wouldnt cycle reliably...i kept it for a while (should have took it back but was just as a toy really) when i finally had enough i went back and tried to px it for a berretta they said " oh i dont know...we have had a lot of problems with those guns which is why we dont sell new ones" eventually i got it swapped for a good nick berreta 301....which while being older never let me down once im sure you will get people on here saying theirs are great but not for me im afraid......wouldnt touch another if it was free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Beretta semis are about as good as they get. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Beretta semis are about as good as they get. webber Seconded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08shooter Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Beretta semis are about as good as they get. webber believe it or not i have witnessed the teknys giving bother at the skeet range.you can get a bad one in any breed. the nature of the beast that are semi autos i suppose.worst i had was my 2nd gun a MAB (never saw another one) i owned it about 4 hours before i took it back,but it did nt put me off autos i ve had another 5 or 6 since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Had a 'mare last Sunday with my wife's 20g Semi Auto. Started fouling using Gamebore 24gram but was OK with Lyvale 28's. Eventually the 28's became a problem and we had to shoot the whole thing as singles as it wouldn't recycle. Was a massive pain as two ladies where using the gun, took an age to get around and massacred Anne's score. What we think it was; Shot 125 on the Friday and only cleaned the barrels. The mechanism had dried out and the more powerful shells could overcome this for a time until that too failed to work. Extensive cleaning and lubrication has now been applied and the action works far more smoothly. If you are shooting 32's it's probably sheer force keping things going this long, get some gun grease on the internal moving parts around the spring etc after a good clean and it'll probably be fine, going out later to run a box of 24's through the semi to prov the theory, will update later as to progress. TTFN The only thing you should lubricate a semi-auto with is engine oil, preferbly diesel oil. Never dries out no matter how many carts you put through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Im up to about 6000 carts through my Benelli M1 and in that time its jammed one cart, so pretty reliable. Just depends what semi-auto you buy ive had loads a carts through my benelli super 90 m2 and never had a jam yet and it will fire 24gram carts aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Outlaw Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 just run 25 24g's though no problem, fouling and lack of lubrication seems to have been the cause (for me at least) TTFN A quick visit to the Outlaws kitchen gunsmith was worth while then James, Glad it worked. We will have to keep an eye on it though for the next few shoots. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Im up to about 6000 carts through my Benelli M1 and in that time its jammed one cart, so pretty reliable. Just depends what semi-auto you buy ive had loads a carts through my benelli super 90 m2 and never had a jam yet and it will fire 24gram carts aswell Sorry I typed M1 and I meant M2, but yeah, they are ultra reliable ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 The only thing you should lubricate a semi-auto with is engine oil, preferbly diesel oil. Never dries out no matter how many carts you put through it. Try Hoppes 9 Dri Lube. I don't know exactly what's in it, but it goes on wet and dries a grey/white colour. I put it on everything that needs lube and it's great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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