russ91 Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 right lads i need some help. at my local train station there has been reports of young lads fireing at trains and pasengers with air rifle's my shooting permishon surounds the train station and i walk past the station on the way to my permishon and now there is a hight police presance around the station i just wonderd where i stand and where my air rifle stands if i get stoped buy the police? as you will probably see i am under the leagul age to own a air rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 I would approach the police before they do you, in other words go and see them and tell them your dad or whoever owns the airgun and that you use it for pest control on that land, obviously you have heard about what is happening at the stations and you would like to clear yourself to carry on your pest control without being implicated. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonshooter76 Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 (edited) i was going to say the same has long has it in a gun bag they cant do anything and take your letter of permisson Edited February 27, 2008 by pigeonshooter76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ91 Posted February 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 one thing tho lads i walk down with the rifle alown as i dont have any one to walk down with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 (edited) 7.3 Section 22(5) of the 1968 Act makes it an offence for any person under the age of seventeen to have an air weapon with them in any public place except: a) as a member of an approved club while engaged as such in or in connection with target shooting (Section 23(2)(a) of the 1968 Act); or B while at a shooting gallery where only air weapons or miniature rifles not exceeding .23 inch calibre are used (section 23B of the 1968 Act); or c) where the air gun or an air rifle (but not an air pistol) is so covered with a securely fastened gun cover so that it cannot be fired; You are not under age to own an air rifle. As long as the gun is zipped up as stated above you'll be fine, but as said approach the police before they approach you. Gibby Edited February 27, 2008 by gibby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ91 Posted February 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 thanks for the reply's so im i leagal walking down to my permishon with my air rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham M Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 You are not under age to own an air rifle. As long as the gun is zipped up as stated above you'll be fine, but as said approach the police before they approach you. Gibby He isn't 17 until June G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 I would get an airgun insurance as well, just to show that you are conscientious.....and for god sake.....learn to spell the queens English....text speak is bloody annoying!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Personally I'd stop using that permission for a bit. If they have reports of people shooting at trains then you're going to be number 1 suspect as you've been shooting in the area. Doesn't matter if you're legal with permission as that doesn't mean you haven't been shooting at trains from the police point of view. If you want to carry on then it may be worth pro actively approaching the police and saying you've seen the reports and you shoot in that area and want to make sure there is no confusing you with the culprits, but you may open a can of worms and have a good few questions to answer while they ensure it wasn't you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 (edited) He isn't 17 until JuneG.M. That doesn't appear to matter. According to the copy of the rules quoted above, under-17's can't carry a piece in public, except - blah, blah, blah... c) where the air gun or an air rifle (but not an air pistol) is so covered with a securely fastened gun cover so that it cannot be fired And yes, I agree txt spk is a blight on humanity and should be made illegal Edited February 28, 2008 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ91 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 well thanks for that guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lock&load Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Personally I'd stop using that permission for a bit. If they have reports of people shooting at trains then you're going to be number 1 suspect as you've been shooting in the area. Doesn't matter if you're legal with permission as that doesn't mean you haven't been shooting at trains from the police point of view. If you want to carry on then it may be worth pro actively approaching the police and saying you've seen the reports and you shoot in that area and want to make sure there is no confusing you with the culprits, but you may open a can of worms and have a good few questions to answer while they ensure it wasn't you or if you were able to find out who the little blighter was and put a stop to his/her/their actions.even better,however i do not recomend you confront them if you do see them merly a phone call, and i dont care what anyone says to you this is not about grassing its public safety and preserving yours/mine everyons right to shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 If he can not legally carry the air rifle except fully covered in such a way as .....bla bla bla....then is he not breaking the law when he takes it out of said cover to shoot? or does he not need to be accompanied by an adult? NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triscrx Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Get up there in a guilly suit and watch the area when you spot the culprit shooting at trains ambush him/her and cable tie them to the railway line! Problem solved - JUST JOKING - On a serious note id stop shooting there until it stops. If you are caught up there shooting in the vicinity as far as they are concerned you will be arrested and I expect and it would be very hard to prove your innocence. Try and put the word out and find out who it is and hand the information to Police if/when you get it. Sadly its due to the mindless actions of individuals like this that make shooting for innocent people like us difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ91 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 thanks for the replys guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk shooter Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 He would be ok to unslip and use the air-rifle on his permission, and others have said go to the police and clear your name before they knock on your door. You can bet that they will have asked around as to who owns the land and who has permission from those landowners (If they are doing their job properly). The last thing you want is for them to approach your land owner with the story of so and so youngster has been firing at passing trains etc. putting the seed of suspicion and doubt in his mind. The police will thank you for your honesty and this could stand you in good stead later in life for SGC and FAC. SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ91 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 thanks for the info SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_HMR Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 For the sake of your permission also i would have a quick word with the landowner to put his mind at ease. The way i would go about it would be talk to the police first make sure they're happy for you to continue shooting and that your no threat then speak to your land owner saying theres been some shooting at trains going on that it wasnt you and you have reported in to the gaurds. And make sure your keep your gun in a slip and stay on the right side of the law. Even if you dont decide to shoot there would still be worth it going to guards and land owner for sake of some hassle and loss of permission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ91 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 right thanks for that HMR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkin Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Russ 91, just a thought here but might it not be someone on the train saw you shooting on your permission and thought you were actually shooting at the train? Or an anti who saw you and knew you weren't shooting at the train but decided to report it in that manner to stop you shooting? Like other posters, I would stop until this all dies down and until your 18th birthday to make sure everything is above board and legal, you don't want to be brought to the attention of the CO of the local force before you have even had a chance to apply for a shotty licence - do you? All the best Pushkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ91 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 take a look for your self this is what was in the local rag http://s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/r...rent=img001.jpg http://s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/r...rent=img002.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ91 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 ow and i dnt think im gunna give up shooting till i tern 18 not for no one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Sam Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 (edited) Accord to my Firearms Acts compliation, if you are under 18 you cannot have a air weapon in a public place AT ALL. Also you need good reason, and the reason must be on you. In otherwords you will need proof that you are 18 or over and proof that you have permission to shoot somewhere. Also right now it is illegal for you to buy pellets Check the rules: http://www.basc.org.uk/content/airriflepractice Edited February 28, 2008 by Big_Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tink Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 I wouldnt get involved trying to resolve the issue of finding the person/s responsible for discharging guns at trains. If you are in the vicinity when this activity is being undertaken by these individual/s you may possibly be implicated into the act and may be your word against theirs especially if you happen to have you gun with you at the time. The best advice would be to consider several factors already mentioned in this thread. Firstly have a word with your permission and gain written permission incase of the police stopping you (will save a lot of hassle later down the line.) Secondly stay clear of the shooting until the police have done their job and dont get involved in trying to catch the people responsible! If they are stupid enough to fire at trains then there is no reason why you also wont become a target! Keep safe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ91 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 yes big sam i now i am not old enough to own a air rifle but its not going to stop me i have shot since i was 5 and im not going to stop now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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