Gordon R Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Anyone used these? Bought a thousand today - 7 1/2's plastic - purely because they were cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob300w Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 OK, I'll be the one to ask; how cheap is cheap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 if you aim in the right place they are ok.i have been using them for over a year now. plastic 28g 7.5s are 37 quid per carton over here.pricy enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleye Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 both my boys use them with no problems and as you say there cheaper than most only thing they moan about is the cartridges are green and they use semi's so longish grass is a pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 We want to hurry up and see some cheap ammunition come in from china. End of the day as long as they go bang............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicko Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 ive looked around on the internet and found this company. http://www.made-in-china.com/china-product...Cartridges.html . i dont know how much they are or how many you would need to order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 I have been using claybuster 8's for a couple of months and am perfectly happy with them. ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretman Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 i love them for clays and i have shot pigeons with them before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Aparrently they are made by rio and are the rio 50 top trap but marked as clay buster ! cant garentee this is right though ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 You guys must want your heads testing, these are ****. I would rather use d & j's than these. I wouldn't use them if they were free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Bit of a mixed bag. I won't use D and J because of what they leave in the barrel. If these are okay - no problem. If they are rubbish - Surly Junior will be the recipient of some freebie shells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 I didnt say they were any good just that apparently they are basically rio`s from what someone told me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 they are`nt as dirty as d+j`s that i do know.i`m only a working bloke and shoot whats cheap when i`m in the gunshop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markl813 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 i carnt find these in any shops where do you get yours from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Blackpool Gun Club on Sunday. The ground stock them for resale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretman Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 (edited) thay are 1000 times better than d&js and cleaner who every says thay ant dont no wot a real cart is Edited May 13, 2008 by ferretman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildoliver Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 What most of you don't realise is 90% of cartridges these days come originally from RIO. Including these. Aside from slightly hard primers which aren't a problem in a proper gun anyway never had an issue with them. A cartridge is a cartridge I buy the cheapest I can find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 slightly hard primers I have noticed that the primers have a slight tendancy to "burst", but I really dont care because... A cartridge is a cartridge I buy the cheapest I can find. Exactly, they smash up the clays fine. As long as they are legal and safe, I'll use them (yes, even D&J ) ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Tried some out tonight. Clean kills, no muck in the barrels, no misfires, but a bit punchier than Eley Blues. Happy enough with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildoliver Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 I'd just like to clarify that I'm not saying I can't see the benefits expensive cartridges offer. A: Probably the biggest advantage ; Snobbery! They look good in the bin, lets be honest pretty colours, high brass, nice gold markings, gordon recoil system all look great. B: Some offer higher velocities at lower or equal perceived kick due to smoother burning powder. C: Expensive cartridges usually have better shot to give better patterns. Likewise wads. And they are matched to powder burn rate better. D: Some expensive cartridges have recoil reduction systems eg. gordon. But for practice, low level comps and any normal shooter you are wasting your money buying anything but the cheapest, a local chap round us regularly shoots 100 straights with cheap steel carts on dtl, and I shoot the cheapest steel I can find too, and while I am far from shooting a straight 100, I reckon I could give most shooters a good run for their money. In fact the next plan is join the cpsa and get my classification. The way i look at it is my shooting improves most from practice and the excellent tutoring I get from a very good friend, he can't tutor me unless I can afford to shoot, and I can shoot far more using cheap cartridges, in fact the difference in price between cheap steel and expensive lead is a shacking half price. Meaning I can shoot almost twice as much using steel. Expensive cartridges are all in the head IMO, like the dozens of other accessories sold to shooters to improve their shooting, I try to keep my head out of shooting as that's when silly foibles start to creep in and you find yourself losing the plot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole Harbour Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 (edited) I've used over 2000 of these never had misfire and not found them too dirty . At the end of the day if your bashing clays for practice why fork out for exotic cartridges . The last batch I bought were £132 a 1000 . Can't get them at moment so just bought some "Kent Cartridges" with fibre wads banged out 100 yesterday with no problems but a bit dirtier , cost £148 a 1000 Edited May 16, 2008 by poole Harbour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 (edited) FC Edited February 9, 2009 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 No complaints about D and J plastic, but their felt wads take a lot of cleaning out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Absolutely **** all wrong with D & J's. Never had a misfire and they're no dirtier than many other "cheap" cartridges. All this pseudo-expert talk is just so much ****. Unfortunately, they're not particularly cheap any more so I don't buy them, there's always something cheaper around. For top competition shots, they need good cartridges, as one more hit can make the difference betwen winning and losing. For anybody else, cheap is fine, it makes stuff all difference, and if you've convinced yourself otherwise, you're deluded. As for dirty - well, it's nothing that one swipe with a Boresnake won't sort out, so they're not dirty. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deer stalker Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 The cheepet clay cartridges i've found are Eley First's and they are very good for what they cost. The price are different if you want fiber/plasic or 24g/28g and they come in from 7.5-9 shot A box of 1000 28g fiber=£142.00 and 24g plasic are £130.00 per 1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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