Cranfield Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 The Great British Hope rolled over rather easily yesterday, to the young Spaniard Nadal. Where was all the "guts and determination" that the newspapers were raving about ? It looks as though Murray is suffering that common ailment that a lot of our young sports "stars" suffer from, the "get rich too quick syndrome". Nothing beats a "hungry fighter". It was also sad to hear a little 14 year old girl who had just won a match in the Junior Comp, described as a "future Wimbledon Champion", no pressure there then. We should do what the Americans do with baseball. Have a "World Series" for tennis and not invite the other Countries to play. Then we would be sure of having a British Champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Yes, I was thinking it must be depressing when you get as good as you are likely to get, only to be thumped by a guy who possibly isn't the world number one on grass at the moment. If things stay as they are, he can only ever hope become the worlds number 3 on grass. Now he has lost it's OK to call him Scottish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poacher Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 To be honest it didn't really look like he made much effort. Its almost as though everyone had said to him, look you playing the No.2 it doesn't matter if you win, so he didn't bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 I agree with the "too much too young" sentiment that Cranners expressed. He also had some anti-English sentiments a year or two back, which I won't forget, though I have forgotten exactly what **** he was spouting. It didn't exactly endear him to me though So he can poke it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Let's not forget he is still one of the best tennis players in the world, currenty ranked no 11(?) but that will go up after Wimbledon. It is the media's fault for all the hype - they said on the Radio the Telegraph had 5 pages about him yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 you've got to remember he was playing the best man. Nadal has a habbit of making people look like they can't play so the fact he did put up some fight was a plus point. I'm not sure I like him at all but the game previously improved my view of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr W Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 I agree with the "too much too young" sentiment that Cranners expressed. He also had some anti-English sentiments a year or two back, which I won't forget, though I have forgotten exactly what **** he was spouting. It didn't exactly endear him to me though So he can poke it What he said when asked which football team he would support in the world cup was 'anyone but England' Nice PR move there Murry, now he has a PR team who are trying to get past that but not easily forgotten. What annoyed me is that if England weren't in a competition then I would support any of the home nations who were left, shame he can't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maiden22 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 I can't stand the miserable little squit and can't for the life of me fathom why anyone who isn't Scottish cares what he does. He made his sentiments about the English perfectly clear, regardless of whatever back-pedalling he then engaged in to avert a PR disaster. These kind of cheap "anyone but the English" jibes are a disgrace (particularly in view of the massive subsidies paid to support Scotland) and would be considered racist if uttered against any other nation, with the possible exceptions of America and Israel. I for one am very pleased that Nadal won so convincingly and with such flair. As for our pampered and deluded sports "stars", they seem to me to be as useless as most things British these days. The only things in Britain that seem to work properly are the Armed Forces, despite the best efforts of successive governments to destroy them. Nice to have a little rant so early in the day. Thanks Cranners. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stig Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) Nadal was just way too strong for him. He is such a great player and i'd love to see him win it (as well as being incredibly good looking with the most wonderfully defined biceps ) Edited July 3, 2008 by Stig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Complete ****** Earlier post ? Cranfield I think "world series" ? It was called that because it was sponsored by world newspaper Jonno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Get Murray away from his Mother and all the other hangers on ( including that Girlfriend who surely cant find him attractive and is obviously another gold digger.) put him with a top Russian tennis coach over in the Ukraine, stop him from playing in the Mickymouse minor tournaments, Get him fit ( I Mean properly fit... not just a couple of fly poops on his arm) light the blue touch paper and stand back. The crowd beat Gasquet and not Murray and Nadal just illustrated the gulf in class between the top couple of seeds and the rest. I hate to offend our colonial cousins north of the border but Henman would have put up a better show.!!! We wont have a decent tennis player capable of winning the elite championships until we get Tennis into the Primary Schools where kids can pick up a racquet at 6 7 & 8 years of age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Earlier post ? Cranfield I think "world series" ? It was called that because it was sponsored by world newspaper I thought I had read something similar, apprently it wasn't . . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Series Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Where was all the "guts and determination" that the newspapers were raving about ? I don't watch tennis but I think the above bit in bold/media is most of your sports peoples problems over there They're built up to be knocked down on purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 I agree with the "too much too young" sentiment that Cranners expressed. He also had some anti-English sentiments a year or two back, which I won't forget, though I have forgotten exactly what **** he was spouting. It didn't exactly endear him to me though So he can poke it Complete skirt-wearing, haggis-humping ZERO. 2 years ago at the start of the Footie World Cup he commented to the press that he would have his Chile (or whoever it was) shirt on for Englands opener against them. Don't get me wrong I'm not Anti-Jock in general, just over-cocky tennis playing ones Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted July 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 ..............and he has a stupid haircut most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Murray's shot choice, at times, was truly awful. He tried "drop shots" which were inappropriate and poorly executed. The press built him up and he did little to encourage us to be more realistic. He got hammered by a different class player, who looked as if he wanted to win. Murray - really want to win - jury is out on that one. He played like he expected to lose and lived down to his lack of ambition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosspot Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Wish him every success yes but support him no the anti English stuff leaves a sour taste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 He,s a good player for one so young. I dont see the reason to get upset about him not supporting England though as he,s Scottish.To drag a begrudging "I support Britain?England" is just cringworthy. I used to naively support the home teams until I realised it was one way traffic so only support my own country now and that is how most English feel I believe. The term "Britain" sums up this collection of countries on a map in my opinion. The term "English" is how I feel and what I am. Best of luck to him but he doesnt represent this country.No one else did either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 He was a miserable little sod even after he won on Monday!! I don't like tennis usually but i did have it on last night, just so i coud watch him lose. And, oh how he lost!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkin Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 ........and I wonder what the comments posted would have been - had he won? What a load of mingers you folks are. No sooner is the guy beaten than you are in about the entrails and tearing him to bits. So what if he said he'd support another country - big deal. Get a life and get over it. He was representing Britain and for all the intense support you gave him in his hours of defeat - wow! I'd like to see any of you folks up there on centre court or wherever it was played - doubt any of you would even be able to get to one of those serves. You wonder what is wrong with this country - self appointed blame masters who cannot see further than the end of their own noses. I think the posters who do make statements about the fact the guy is Scottish and that he didn't represent Britain is just sour grapes - who else is up for Britain? These statements are racist and antagonistic and are a poor representation of this site. This site supposedly stands for drawing people together under the basis of our collective sport - fine example here then! I am Scottish - and I am offended by some of the statements made before. But I will also tell you this;I am British through and through. If Britain has a contender in a competition - then I want to see them win - I don't care if they are English, Welsh, Irish or Scottish - Britain is what counts to me. The fact they got as far as representing BRITAIN - gets my respect - but not my armchair critique of how badly they did if they were beaten. Stop yer whinging and grow up! My rant over. Pushkin. NB Please note I am not reporting anyone by private mail -I'm telling yer to yer face here and now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek.snr Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 total t*t ,full of excuses ,sore wrist ,bad cold ,wrong side of draw ,etc etc,.and he is a misrable sod,face like a bulldog licking pee off a nettle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 If he had won then he would have had my admiration.To have lost to the best is no disgrace either.Win or lose I do not feel he was representing my country and I hate seeing the media making him squirm over his alliegence . Its his business who he supports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapid 17 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 I reckon Mr Murray is destined to be like Mr Henman, a 'nearly good enough to win it but not quite ' guy as far as Wimbledon is concerned. Geoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 ........and I wonder what the comments posted would have been - had he won? What a load of mingers you folks are. No sooner is the guy beaten than you are in about the entrails and tearing him to bits. So what if he said he'd support another country - big deal. Get a life and get over it. He was representing Britain and for all the intense support you gave him in his hours of defeat - wow! I'd like to see any of you folks up there on centre court or wherever it was played - doubt any of you would even be able to get to one of those serves. You wonder what is wrong with this country - self appointed blame masters who cannot see further than the end of their own noses. I think the posters who do make statements about the fact the guy is Scottish and that he didn't represent Britain is just sour grapes - who else is up for Britain???? These statements are racist and antagonistic and are a poor representation of this site. This site supposedly stands for drawing people together under the basis of our collective sport - fine example here then! I am Scottish - and I am offended by some of the statements made before. But I will also tell you this;I am British through and through. If Britain has a contender in a competition - then I want to see them win - I don't care if they are English, Welsh, Irish or Scottish - Britain is what counts to me. The fact they got as far as representing BRITAIN - gets my respect - but not my armchair critique of how badly they did if they were beaten. Stop yer whinging and grow up! My rant over. Pushkin. NB Please note I am not reporting anyone by private mail -I'm telling yer to yer face here and now! Crikey mate thats fighting talk.............are you his Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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