viking Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 well i think all these stupid people and countrys should be just leveled, end of fighting, and anyone who doesnt belong in this contry should be sent home, instead or carrying on making bombs and setting them off and having terrorist views, death to them all, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santlache Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 It's all nonsense and yes the involvement of the USA has completely screwed the region. Spot on. If the US had reigned in Israel after they attacked the USS Liberty, things would have been totally different. It was JFK who said that Israel would get nuclear weapons over my dead body. Shortly after he died Israel started taking delivery of nuclear material, and have since developed an arsenal and WMD programme in secrecy at Dimona that nobody has been allowed to inspect. Remember Mordechai Vanunu, the man who Mossad kidnapped in London then imprisoned for 18 years for spilling the beans on Israel's nuclear programme ? The place is supposed to be a death trap and disaster waiting to happen according to leaked sources. Still, if that goes up, it'll save the Iranians doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santlache Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Seriously though before we know it the un will get involved we will send in peacekeepers more infidels for hamas to blame then some poor squaddie will kick some little arab's **** for throwing hand grenades at him he will then get sued by some handwringingpinko liberal the little arab will get a couple of million quid and the right to move to a better life in England and then start funding islamist terrorist group just like the rest of them (take a breath) Brits in Palestine as Peacekeepers ? I don't think so somehow after our last excursion and history there. If we'd slammed all the Zionist Terrorists up back then, or better still had killed them, Israel would never have been born and none of this trouble would be with us still today 60 years later. It's my Grandfather's fault he was there......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 You really are zionist obsessed arent you ! Are you of palestinian descent ? Is that where the paranoi comes from ? They are both as bad as each other,its a lose lose situation on both sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santlache Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 You really are zionist obsessed arent you ! Are you of palestinian descent ? Is that where the paranoi comes from ? They are both as bad as each other,its a lose lose situation on both sides The thread has rather turned into a Zionist supporters club hasn't it. I'm holding the anti-Zionism flag well but I'm joined by a few via PM, who are laughing at you all. Your problem is you all believe the media, which is all right-wing owned and Israel controls what gets out and what is said. The mighty Zionist PR machine with their British or American accents, presenters in smart suits switched to carry what audience they are addressing and they presnt us with the facts, which you have fallen for time and time again. Then we get a Palestinian side, an traditionally dressed man or woman in broken English, distraught, probably shiocked, mumbling something we can't understand. Open you eyes for heavens sake and peer around the corner. No Journalists are in Gaza, just like Jenin a few years ago. Israel commit mass slaughter of everyone, nobody from the west sees it then Israel pull out. Then the Journos go in, controlled by Israel of cxourse but they find things, nasty things and the accusations start to fly. A slanging match goes on for a while, Israel categorically deny it, counter accusations are made and it drags out, the world moves on and it's all forgotten about, Israel get away with it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Yeah it is good that you point to the massacre that occured in Jenin I think it was in 2002 just after the start of the second intifada against Israel where the media was barred while Israel forces murdered over 2000 civilians. I guess history repeats itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 So let me get this correct,you think we in the West love our children and our families more than the Arabs and people of Gaza, and we hurt more at our loss than they do ? Yes - otherwise, Hamas et al wouldn't use their own civvies as a human shield, ensuring they're killed in the crossfire for PR purposes. From all the bile spouted on here, Zionism seems to be a fairly transparent way to justify Jew-bashing. Quoting a lot of dodgy internet articles does not the truth make, some wise man (not sure if he was Christian, Jew, Muslim or the rest) said. Dress it up as you want, Israel's always wrong, but let's use the "international Jewish conspiracy" theory to get back at them. How about threads on, "the systematic closure and desecration of Christian churches in Kosovo," or "why doesn't Hamas spend some of the money it spends on weapons to feed its people," or "Israel seems to be killing a lot of Hamas senior bods, perhaps that will encourage them to sue for peace?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussman Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Your problem is you all believe the media, which is all right-wing owned and Israel controls what gets out and what is said. HA! All I ever read and hear in the media is in support of Palestine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I plan not to shoot pigeons called Mordachai or Mohammed, other than that what else can I do ? Certainly not smash up windows and injure police officers and horses in a protest in London ? The scum who hid behind tea towels around their hate riddled faces at the protest last week deserve justice the middle eastern way. Its almost comical the way these protests happen in most capital cities in Europe as if they actually acheive anything. BTW, thanks Dazza, no doubt the reply to you will be another long "look at me, I am super intelligent and whats more, always right" diatribe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 No more personal insults, the posts will get removed. Keep it polite and on the topic please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 flashman wasnt that the judean peoples front mikee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Santlache , Do you know a lady called Alison ? just curious thats all . Harnser . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Because the majority on here dont agree with you we are all zionist supporters !! Were you thrown out of the RAF for your paranoid rantings and irrational behaviour mr cook ? with your complete inability to see reason or rational i find it scary that you have access to a gun. Your rants are very similar to that of your average muslim terrorist that keeps crawling out from the woodwork every now and then,claiming the whole world is wrong because they dont believe what he does.You need to see a quack mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 this is the most exciting topic ive read on this forum, beats the hell out of 17hmr or 22lr mikee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 this is the most exciting topic ive read on this forum, beats the hell out of 17hmr or 22lr mikee You should have read the shed topic ,it would have made your toes curl . Harnser . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 heron, i'll try and find it if its still on here (non locals might not know harnser is the norfolk name for a heron) mikee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 they should settle this over a game of marbles. i personaly dont care who started it, but its got to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 as i have said on previous topic by Alison , there is no point in arguing or bebating on this issue .The spokesman for Hamas said "we will fight to the end" ,,where the end is i don`t know, it is all very sad and us old boys on pigeon watch are only falling out with one another over it ,Call me an old softie but that point of veiw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 "The spokesman for Hamas said "we will fight to the end" ,,where the end is i don`t know" usually under a pile of rubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santlache Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Yeah it is good that you point to the massacre that occured in Jenin I think it was in 2002 just after the start of the second intifada against Israel where the media was barred while Israel forces murdered over 2000 civilians. I guess history repeats itself. Valid point. But we should not be surprised, Israel's history has been riddled with War Crimes and mass killings of the Palestinian and Arab civilian population. It all started with gusto in 1948 with Dier Yassin, as the Zionists started ethnically clearing the land. The other most famous and notable one was at the Sabra and Shatila Palestinian Refugee Camp in Lebanon in 1982, when Israel invaded and Sharon earned himself the nickname 'Butcher'. Estimates of up to 3,500 Palestinians were butchered, mainly women, children the old and infirm. It was all captured on film by photographer Donald McCullin and printed in his book, "Beirut - a city in crisis". I've met McCullin on a couple of occasions, a bit of a hero of mine. His most famous picture of the Sabra and Shatila massacre is one called the 'Mandolin Player' McCullin describes it as a "Carnival rejoicing in the midst of carnage". Sharon himself was found 'personally responsible' of the massacres by an internal Israeli inquiry. He was forced to resign as Defence Chief but was never punished. Then he later went on to become Prime Minister while leader of the right wing Lukid Party. There are literally hundreds and hundreds of smaller examples, but the other most famous and big one was the massacre of Egyptian Soldiers during Six-Day War, when Israeli troops shot as many as 2000 prisoners who had surrendered. http://guardian.150m.com/palestine/israeli-massacres.htm Looks like Gaza will be added to that list pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 "The spokesman for Hamas said "we will fight to the end" ,,where the end is i don`t know" usually under a pile of rubble and under that rubble will be the bodies of human beings wether they be - jews ,muslims ,christians and the war will go on when we have gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santlache Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 This is thew symbol you should be using, Dazza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 This is thew symbol you should be using, Dazza. thew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col s10 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Watch this and weep. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dlfhoU66s4Y This slaughter must be stopped.......NOW didnt weep at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Purely from a humane point of view, now remember that line before any of you want to kick off, how can anyone with a conscience back what Israel are doing ? LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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