ellepop Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 A friend of mine has suffered a major break-in whilst at work, and subsequently a number of shotguns have been stolen after they gained access to his secured cabinet. If anybody offers you the following guns for sale can you please contact Nottinghamshire Police or PM me please. Greener GP 12b Martini action; serial number 24237 Sarasquetta 12b sbs sidelock with stock extension; serial number 218604 Webley & Scott 410. bolt action; serial number 21995 Belgian folding single barrel 410; No visable serial number Miroku o/u 12b; serial number 58033PZ Lincoln Jubilee 16b o/u multi choke; serial number 160184 (this gun has a 2 tone stock from a rubber extension pad) Baikal 12b sbs non ejector; serial number C33031 Also a BSA Airsporter 177 air rifle. This seems and organised break-in as they have left a lap-top and other items that were on open display and curiously no ammunition was taken. Any help would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfox Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 not good at all mate, more fodder for the anti's now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Damn bad luck! I hope he gets them back before they do any damage to/with them! Best wish to your mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 How did they get into cabinet or did they remove cabinet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampa Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 I'll certainly keep my ears and eyes open for you mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chop Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Whats the police FEO do in this circs? Revoke license? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) Berlimey - seven guns in one fell swoop. If they were Section one rifles there would need to be good reasons for each of them to be held. I'm not a shotgun owner and feel curious about why so many are needed - or even just wanted. Now don't jump down my throat because I really don't know and I'm not challenging his right or need - nor even his want to use them. Could someone put me right because it seems to me that incidents like this, though clearly none of his doing may be likely to result in more restrictions for SGC's. Edited January 28, 2009 by Dave-G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Whats the police FEO do in this circs? Revoke license? Treat it as a theft of secured guns without revoking the certificate, as long as the keys weren't left arround. Its an odd haul to be targetted as shotguns aren't that popular these days for use in robberies etc and they aren't high value guns. But does sound like they knew they were there and came for them so who knows. Hopefully they catch the ***** involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhiannonBW Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Treat it as a theft of secured guns without revoking the certificate, as long as the keys weren't left arround. Its an odd haul to be targetted as shotguns aren't that popular these days for use in robberies etc and they aren't high value guns. But does sound like they knew they were there and came for them so who knows. Hopefully they catch the ***** involved Thanks for the information - I installed my gun safe last night, and hubby wanted to add all sorts of extra security to it, but it seems if the thieves know the guns are there, then they will specifically target them. It does sound rather like the thieves were specifically targetting the guns. Is this a common occurence? Who would know the specific list of guns (and whether they were worth stealing) other than insurers and friends? Rhiannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 its not common simply because shotguns aren't easy to trade or sell, and are pretty unsuitable for most criminal activity. Of course you do have high value guns that may attract unwanted attention but otherwise most that are stolen are from cars. As for your house just secure the cabinet well and take good care of the keys and you are keeping your side of the licensing conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhiannonBW Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 its not common simply because shotguns aren't easy to trade or sell, and are pretty unsuitable for most criminal activity. Of course you do have high value guns that may attract unwanted attention but otherwise most that are stolen are from cars. As for your house just secure the cabinet well and take good care of the keys and you are keeping your side of the licensing conditions. Thank you. its not common simply because shotguns aren't easy to trade or sell, and are pretty unsuitable for most criminal activity. Unfortunately there may be a large percentage of criminals who don't have the intelligence to work that bit out. Rhiannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJUK Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Sorry to hear that. They must be serious criminals or stupid ####s. You can get some serious time for having firearms with no paperwork. Hope they get caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Treat it as a theft of secured guns without revoking the certificate, as long as the keys weren't left arround. Its an odd haul to be targetted as shotguns aren't that popular these days for use in robberies etc and they aren't high value guns. But does sound like they knew they were there and came for them so who knows. Hopefully they catch the ***** involved Not sure it was *****'s, it could be anyone??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 How did they get into the cabinet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 If its ****** they not likely to get caught - anyone ever seen a ***** car being pulled over for roadside checks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J@mes Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Bad news...hopefully the insurance will pay out on the guns and that they never get used in a crime. In my mind it wont be people looking to use them in bank jobs or anything like that, when a 9mm pistol is readily available and much more suited to the crime. could be ***** poachers or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 I am always cautious about loading and unloading from the car. I cannot help but be very aware that many people watch and take note of someone in shooting gear parking up or at the end of a shoot returing to the car with gun and game bag. It would be easy to spot someones habbits and follow them home. They won't know what gun it is but maybe they don't care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 If its ****** they not likely to get caught - anyone ever seen a ***** car being pulled over for roadside checks? Used to do it all the time....Caravans and trailers were always a popular liberation item whilst i was on roads policing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Answer me this gents? Lets suppose this mans friend did play by the rules and everything was as it should have been legally I.e. properly secured, locked and a key placed some where safe.. What happens to the *** holes that lifted that mans guns should they get caught? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 A friend of mine has suffered a major break-in whilst at work, and subsequently a number of shotguns have been stolen after they gained access to his secured cabinet. If anybody offers you the following guns for sale can you please contact Nottinghamshire Police or PM me please. . The conclusion I came to was that if I took my cabinet to the engineering workshop I work in It would take me at least 30mins to break into it damaging the contents inside no doubt and that is using some serious gear so how the hell did they breach your mates. Having said that I do sympathise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Answer me this gents? Lets suppose this mans friend did play by the rules and everything was as it should have been legally I.e. properly secured, locked and a key placed some where safe.. What happens to the *** holes that lifted that mans guns should they get caught? In theory-they would get 5 years in prison.Illegal possesion of a firearm in UK is supposed to carry a 5 year sentence,but the reality could be much less. I must admit that when i go shooting-im everso cautious about people seeing what im sticking in car.I normally put rucksack etc in first gun last and never wear my camo coat when driving etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeinVA Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 In theory-they would get 5 years in prison.Illegal possesion of a firearm in UK is supposed to carry a 5 year sentence,but the reality could be much less. I must admit that when i go shooting-im everso cautious about people seeing what im sticking in car.I normally put rucksack etc in first gun last and never wear my camo coat when driving etc. Thank you sir :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 In theory-they would get 5 years in prison.Illegal possesion of a firearm in UK is supposed to carry a 5 year sentence,but the reality could be much less. I must admit that when i go shooting-im everso cautious about people seeing what im sticking in car.I normally put rucksack etc in first gun last and never wear my camo coat when driving etc. Stealing firearms would IMO carry a far stiffer sentence than 5 years .Did the 5 year minimum jail sentence come in for illegally owned firearms especially after the hand gun ban ? Is'nt it murder and rape where the sentences are around 2 years :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Stealing firearms would IMO carry a far stiffer sentence than 5 years .Did the 5 year minimum jail sentence come in for illegally owned firearms especially after the hand gun ban ? Is'nt it murder and rape where the sentences are around 2 years :wacko: I know the theft of a firearm should incur a longer sentence,but im utterly convinced the reality would be something else.I daresay they might get a wee bit more if perhaps the guns were used in a robbery etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ean76 Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 If people know that they are in the house and that they have time & opportunity, they will get them. If they were secured as per the requirements and the house was left secure (with the cabinet keys hidden) can the owner really be blamed? Well done for thinking of putting their details on here - pretty much a national site with lots of members who will all, hopefully, be aware of them now. Best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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