Who are you voting for?

[scifiden]

Lose the DM's and grow out that crew-cut, boys. Then go down to your local War Memorial to ask the ghosts of those that died what they think of extreme nationalism?

 

While you're there, offer a word of thanks to the tens of thousands of men from India, the Punjab, Kashmir, Nepal, Africa and the West Indies etc. Men that fought and died for this country, helped deliver us from tyranny and secured your freedom to spout ballocks on the tinternet.

 

If you think that the BNP is the answer; you have spectacularly failed to understand the question.

 

What about the MILLIONS of English who died for this & THEIR country? where is their thanks, they must be turning in their graves!!!

 

Maybe the BNP are not the answer but do you honestly expect me to believe that the Tories or Labour are!!! Wake up & smell what your shovelin

[SA1Gunner]

FAO Jazzie and Gramp, Jazzie I bet you Gramp has been there, done it and got the t-shirt, I bet he has loads of life's experiences, so for any of us not to listen to what he has said is silly. It's a breath of fresh air to read what your Gramps thoughts are and your Gramps has got a good point, as long as the Tories in a hung parliament with The BNP did not forget our elderly and poor but I suppose Nick and The BNP would never let them forget the elderly and poor.

 

Gramps thank you very much for your thoughts, they are very much appreciated. God bless you.

[SA1Gunner]

FAO Lefty, is your name lefty for a reason ?

 

Lose the DM's and grow out that crew-cut, boys.

 

Did someone tell you The BNP wear Dr Martens, grow up there's a good fellow, The BNP have completely changed their image and in my humble opinion will do a better job running this country than this LIEBOUR government.

 

 

Then go down to your local War Memorial to ask the ghosts of those that died what they think of extreme nationalism?

 

Did you read what Jasmine Gramps thoughts were, I bet you there are 100's of 1000's of very brave dead men who are turning in their graves at the state of this Nation and the PC lefty faggot brigade who have also helped to ruin this Nation

 

While you're there, offer a word of thanks to the tens of thousands of men from India, the Punjab, Kashmir, Nepal, Africa and the West Indies etc. Men that fought and died for this country, helped deliver us from tyranny and secured your freedom to spout ballocks on the tinternet.

 

I am very grateful for the sacrifices of all of the brave people including BRITISH armed forces personel who you have failed to recognise and mention, it's you who are spouting the bolloks fella, because Britain should look after it's own first, our elderly and needy, British jobs for British workers, get out the EU that costs us a lot of money every year just to stay in it, our troops fighting an illegal war, we shouldn't even be in, the increase of izlam has to be a major worry and if you think this is bollow too, you read up on sharia law and what radical izlam would do to you and your family

 

If you think that the BNP is the answer; you have spectacularly failed to understand the question.

 

You don't half write some bolloks fella, the question was

 

Who are you voting for?, In the next general election.

 

So it seems to me it's you who failed to understand the question.

[SA1Gunner]

FAO Henry d, did you fall of that fence ( you know the one you always sit on ) or were you pushed ?

[al4x]

on a side note has someone switched your S key and Z key arround or just removed it SA1?

[Chard]

SA1 Gunner-

 

It is easy for the BNP to publish a manifesto which promises things many of us want to hear. Unfortunately it is all just fantasy.

In reality if the BNP were elected and tried to put all their promises into place we would be up the creek without a paddle. The figures just don't add up. They know they stand zero chance of running the country so they can indulge in their idealistic dreams because they know they will never be asked to put them into practice.

 

As always, I shall be voting tory. After over a decade of liebour, Dave deserves a chance.

 

I agree with this. If the BNP got in, I think they'd run a mile, because I think they know themselves that they're not capable of the day-to-day running of a country.

 

However, I'm glad that they are here, because as their vote grows, and it will grow a lot, I believe that it is the only thing that will make the two wet parties sit up and take note. They totally ignore the wishes of the people or are completely oblivious to the opinion on the street. As support for the BNP grows, I think they'll wake up and realise what public opinion is trying to say. Hopefully, this will make them (as somebody so succinctly put it) "grow a pair" and start coming up with some form of immigration control and sack the human rights act.

Edited March 4, 2009 by Chard

[njc110381]

I think I like the Conservatives. I don't know a great deal about this sort of thing but I know I don't like Labour! My last Labour MP stood outside the local post office grumbling about it being needed, then voted to close them! What a ****!

[ROBLATCH]

i could be there for the bnp at the moment

[SA1Gunner]

FAO The people that think The BNP are racist,

 

This vid was filmed in Wrexham on Saturday 1st March which was St Davids day, it's a good vid to watch with no swear words or such like, anyway if you don't want to watch it all fast forward to 4.54, there you will find a coloured gentleman singing let it be with The BNP party members and supporters, oh and by the way no one was wearing doctor martens.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mH-VDqbKBY

 

Too much **** is written by the facist gutter press and to much **** is spoken by other political parties against The BNP and here's why, the LIEBOUR and the other lot are scared that if they lose their seats on the council to The BNP, there gravy train stops and they might have to do some real work then.

 

This is my last post on this topic. God bless us Nationalists all over the world, we are our countries only hope for survival.

Edited March 4, 2009 by SA1Gunner

[LEFTY478]

What about the MILLIONS of English who died for this & THEIR country? I didn't know that India, Jamaca, South Africa et al were under imminent threat of Nazi occupation in '39/40? Many thanks for filling in my incomplete knowledge .

 

where is their thanks, they must be turning in their graves!!! Volunteers didn't sign up for thanks, they signed up to help defeat the Nazis and to protect their motherland and sovereign. That's Britain and King George, BTW.

 

Maybe the BNP are not the answer but do you honestly expect me to believe that the Tories or Labour are!!! No, what I honestly expect is that you like collecting Iron Crosses from E-bay.

Wake up & smell what your shovelin

 

 

 

FAO Lefty, is your name lefty for a reason ? Yes, there's a reason for the name. It's either coz I dress on the left or, because most soldiers whose surname is 'Wright' get called Lefty. You work it out.

 

Lose the DM's and grow out that crew-cut, boys.

 

Did someone tell you The BNP wear Dr Martens, grow up there's a good fellow, The BNP have completely changed their image and in my humble opinion will do a better job running this country than this LIEBOUR government.

 

Really? Changed their image but they/you (delete as necessary) are still small minded bigots. Besides, your PR machine still needs to get some over-time in, eh?

 

Then go down to your local War Memorial to ask the ghosts of those that died what they think of extreme nationalism?

 

Did you read what Jasmine Gramps thoughts were, I bet you there are 100's of 1000's of very brave dead men who are turning in their graves at the state of this Nation and the PC lefty faggot brigade who have also helped to ruin this Nation Yes, I expect there are and while I'm no fan of left-wing extremists either, I doubt there will be many wishing that facism would replace it.

 

While you're there, offer a word of thanks to the tens of thousands of men from India, the Punjab, Kashmir, Nepal, Africa and the West Indies etc. Men that fought and died for this country, helped deliver us from tyranny and secured your freedom to spout ballocks on the tinternet.

 

I am very grateful for the sacrifices of all of the brave people including BRITISH armed forces personel who you have failed to recognise and mention, We can discuss this at the next RBL Rememberance Parade, you pull up a sandbag and I'll tell you some war stories. You'll recognise me, I'll be one of the fella's wearing a Regimental Blaser, tie and gongs. And I'll be able to recognise you, because you won't be.

 

it's you who are spouting the bolloks fella, because Britain should look after it's own first, our elderly and needy, British jobs for British workers, get out the EU that costs us a lot of money every year just to stay in it, our troops fighting an illegal war, we shouldn't even be in, the increase of izlam has to be a major worry and if you think this is bollow too, you read up on sharia law and what radical izlam would do to you and your family You read whatever fantasy comics you like, I'll stick to grown up books. Oh, if you're going to write another long winded spiel, please use commas and full stops. Reading this make my eyes bleed.

 

If you think that the BNP is the answer; you have spectacularly failed to understand the question.

 

You don't half write some bolloks fella, the question was Who are you voting for?, In the next general election. This thread, page two, post number 23 - I'm sure you'll be able to work out my answer.

 

So it seems to me it's you who failed to understand the question. And breathe...

[Baldrick]

SA1Gunner, it doesn't matter how much spin the BNP uses - it is all wasted effort. You can't polish a ****. The BNP will not be voted in at the next election. The party does not have the gloss, the financial backing, the rational policies or the broad-brush appeal of the other parties.

 

BNP effort would be better placed backing the Tories, then lobbying for change (not that you will get it). Nationalism isn't an intelligent long-term political strategy, if you look at the bigger economic picture.

[jonno 357]

Vote labour you know it makes sense

 

As much as we are in a spiralling financial meltdown. I've never been as well off. I had 6 overseas holidays last year few quid in the bank

 

Other business interests is healthy

 

Bring it on again and again

 

Jonno

Edited March 4, 2009 by jonno 357

[ROBLATCH]

SA1Gunner, it doesn't matter how much spin the BNP uses - it is all wasted effort. You can't polish a ****. The BNP will not be voted in at the next election. The party does not have the gloss, the financial backing, the rational policies or the broad-brush appeal of the other parties.

 

BNP effort would be better placed backing the Tories, then lobbying for change (not that you will get it). Nationalism isn't an intelligent long-term political strategy, if you look at the bigger economic picture.

 

maybe thats why brown holds his name lets face reality we have tried coservative /labour and the likes well whats the difference of the bnp?.

every politition has their views (most are incorrect) no doubt every member posting on this topic has their views. imho everyone is entitled to view their concerns and matters so why not just leave those oppinions to those involved ? it seems you all managed to leave the views of the polititions ruin our country so whats the difference of a personal oppinion beggars me

[Wookie]

... there you will find a coloured gentleman...

 

Good god! That sounds like my gran talking! What colour was he? Green? These days I think they prefer to be called black or Asian. It's less insulting.

 

I think this thread highlights a very good point about democracy. I cannot stand racism in any way, shape or form. There is _no_ place for it in a modern society. However, in a democracy we are allowed to have different views and, if it came down to it, I would fight to protect the rights of people to be racist *******. Those are not my personal politics though and there is no way that I condone that sort of think. I've traveled too far and met too many nice people around the world to think like that.

 

Yes, some people can be ####s. That's their right. I don't agree with them being ####s, but they can be.

[Yellow Bear]

Just a thought for the possible BNP voters

 

If enough people vote for them you may just end up re- electing the current rabble as the against vote would be split

 

D

[Bombadil]

FAO The people that think The BNP are racist,

 

This vid was filmed in Wrexham on Saturday 1st March which was St Davids day, it's a good vid to watch with no swear words or such like, anyway if you don't want to watch it all fast forward to 4.54, there you will find a coloured gentleman singing let it be with The BNP party members and supporters, oh and by the way no one was wearing doctor martens.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mH-VDqbKBY

 

Too much **** is written by the facist gutter press and to much **** is spoken by other political parties against The BNP and here's why, the LIEBOUR and the other lot are scared that if they lose their seats on the council to The BNP, there gravy train stops and they might have to do some real work then.

 

This is my last post on this topic. God bless us Nationalists all over the world, we are our countries only hope for survival.

 

I live in the border of Wrexham, they got ban from holding public meetings due to shouting racial abuse at Asian women walking by with their children and the Wrexham race riots.

[Zapp]

there you will find a coloured gentleman singing let it be with The BNP party members and supporters

 

Was this him?

 

 

ZB

[Sundowner]

The way I look at it is this, liebour and the tories, have both had their chance, they clearly don't care about the indigenous population in Britain, liebour have run this country into the ground and will go down in history as the worst political party ever to govern Britain, all of you do yourself a favour and read up on " COMMON PURPOSE " if this gets off the floor, it will be disasterous for The UK.

 

izlam is a big threat to everyone in the Europe, now you can turn a blind eye for so long but one day soon, we are all going to have to come to terms with izlam in the UK, when the moderate moslems start getting into places of power, they will then be taken over by radical izlam, then this is where the fun will start, mark these words.

 

I don't vote for the prettiest face or the guy with the nicest tie, I vote for a party who will look after the needs of my family, myself and my fellow Britains.

 

Here are the reasons why I am voting for The BNP, is there anything in these policies that any of you disagree with, if so I would like to read what your thoughts are.

 

IMMIGRATION - time to say ENOUGH!

 

On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years.

To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question.

We will abolish the ‘positive discrimination’ schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of ‘asylum seekers’, all of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries.

 

EUROPE - back to British independence!

 

We are opposed to the Single European Currency, and support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures. At the same time, we are for the best possible relationship with our European neighbours and believe that the nations of Europe should be free to trade and cooperate whenever it is mutually beneficial, though without being forced into a political and economic straitjacket - political unification. Accordingly, we stand for British withdrawal from the European Union. In place of the EU, we intend to aim towards greater national self-sufficiency, and to work to restore Britain’s family and trading ties with Australia, Canada and New Zealand, and to trade with the rest of the world as it suits us. Following our withdrawal from the EU, the BNP will use the £43 million per day net contribution Britain at present makes to the European Union to fund many far more useful projects at home.

 

LAW AND ORDER - crack down on crime!

 

The BNP will crack down on crime and restore public safety and confidence. We will free the police and courts from the politically correct straitjacket that is stopping them from doing their job properly. The liberal fixation with the ‘rights’ of criminals must be replaced by concern for the rights of victims, and the right of innocent people not to become victims. We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed.

 

ECONOMY - British workers first!

 

Globalisation, with its export of jobs to the Third World, is bringing ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities that depend on them. Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers. When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end, and secure, well-paid employment will flourish, at last getting our people back to work and ending the waste and injustice of having more than 4 million people in a hidden army of the unemployed concealed by Labour’s statistical fiddles. We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people. To that end we will restore our economy and land to British ownership. We also call for preference in the job market to be given to native Britons. We will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants. Finally we will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates by encouraging worker shareholder and co-operative schemes

 

EDUCATION - discipline, standards, achievement!

 

We are against the ‘trendy’ teaching methods that have made Britain one of the most poorly educated nations in Europe. We will end the practice of politically correct indoctrination in all its guises and we will restore discipline in the classroom, give authority back to teachers and put far greater emphasis on training young people in the industrial and technological skills necessary in the modern world. We will also seek to instill in our young people knowledge of and pride in the history, cultures and heritage of the native peoples of Britain.

 

AGRICULTURE - quality before quantity!

 

We see a strong, healthy agriculture sector as vital to the country. Britain’s farming industry will be encouraged to produce a much greater part of the nation’s need in food products. Priority will be switched from quantity to quality, as we move from competing in a global economy to maximum self-sufficiency for Britain. We will ensure a major shift to healthier and more sustainable organic farming. We are pledged to ensure the restoration of Britain’s once great fishing industry with the reimposition of the former exclusion zones around our coast.

 

HEALTH - first-class healthcare for all!

 

We are wholly committed to a free, fully funded National Health Service for all British citizens. We will revitalise the Health Service by boosting staff and bed numbers, slashing unnecessary bureaucracy and by addressing the root cause of low recruitment and retention - low pay. We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid while our own hospitals are short of beds and the staff to run them. More emphasis must be placed on healthy living with greater understanding of sickness prevention through physical exercise, a healthier environment and improved diets.

 

TRANSPORT - time to invest!

 

Increased investment is needed in Britain’s public transport system to bring it up to the highest standards in the world. The fiasco of rail privatisation with different companies running services and track leading to higher fares and lower safety also needs to be resolved. Congestion of our towns and cities must be eased by the provision of greater incentives to use rail and bus transport instead of private cars. The first step is to end the crime and squalor that puts so many people off public transport. Motorists must not be made the scapegoats for government failure. Fuel tax should be cut, motorway speed limits raised, and hidden speed cameras should be banned. Far more must be done to encourage the development and use of cleaner fuels.

 

ENVIRONMENT - a cleaner, greener future!

 

Our ideal for Britain is that of a clean, beautiful country, free of pollution in all its forms. We will enforce standards to curb those practices, whether by business or the individual, which cause environmental damage. “The polluter pays to clean up the mess†must become a fact of life, not an electioneering slogan. In towns we would work to replace the brutalist modernism of 1960s-style-architecture with a blend of traditional local styles and materials and ensure that developments take place on a more human scale.

 

FOREIGN AID - time to spend our money on our own people!

 

We reject the idea that Britain must forever be obliged to subsidise the incompetence and corruption of Third World states by supplying them with financial aid. We will link foreign aid with our voluntary resettlement policy, whereby those nations taking significant numbers of people back to their homelands will need cash to help absorb those returning. The billions of pounds saved every year by this policy will also be reallocated to vital services in Britain.

 

PENSIONERS - pensioners before asylum seekers!

 

The conditions in which many of Britain’s old people are forced to live are a national disgrace. We are pledged to ensure that all our old folk are able to live in comfortable homes, and will restore the earnings link with pensions. Elderly people who have paid a lifetime of taxes and reared families should not have to sell their homes to pay for care.

 

NORTHERN IRELAND - an end to sectarianism!

 

Britain has shamefully allowed the terrorists in N.I. to come close to winning when the IRA could have been destroyed years ago. Government weakness has led to hundreds of deaths and given those same terrorists a share in government. We would end all attempts to force the people of Northern Ireland to accept foreign interference in their affairs and deal with terrorism - from whatever side - once and for all. No one with links to a terrorist organisation that refuses to lay down its arms should be allowed to enter government. We would abolish state-supported segregation in education. In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles.

 

DEFENCE - no more cuts!

 

Successive cuts in defence spending have left Britain’s armed forces perilously weak. We will boost Britain’s armed forces to ensure that they are able to deal with any emergency, and defend our homeland and our independence. We will bring our troops back from Germany and withdraw from NATO, since recent political developments make both commitments obsolete. We will close all foreign military bases on British soil, and refuse to risk British lives in meddling ‘peace-keeping’ missions in parts of the world where no British interests are at stake - a position of armed neutrality. We will also restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service.

FOREIGN AFFAIRS - Britain’s interests first!

Britain’s foreign relations should be determined by the protection of our own national interest and not by our like or dislike of other nations’ internal politics. We would have no quarrel with any nation that does not threaten British interests. We will maintain an independent foreign policy of our own, and not a spineless subservience to the USA, the ‘international community’, or any other country.

 

DEMOCRACY - letting the people decide!

 

The British people invented modern Parliamentary democracy. Yet in recent years the British people have been denied their democratic rights. On issue after issue, the views of the majority of British people have been ignored and overridden by a Politically Correct ‘elite’ which thinks it knows best. On immigration, on Capital Punishment, on the surrender of British sovereignty to the EU and in numerous other areas, democracy has been absent as Labour, Tories and Lib-Dems conspire in election after election to offer the British people no real choice on such vital issues. The BNP exists to give the British people, that choice, and thus to restore and defend the basic democratic rights we have all been denied. We favour more democracy, not less, not just at national but at regional and local level.

Power should be devolved to the lowest level possible so that local communities can make decisions which affect them. We will remove legal curbs on freedom of speech imposed by successive Governments over the last 40 years. We will implement a Bill of Rights guaranteeing fundamental freedoms to the British people. We will ensure that ordinary British people have real democratic power over their own lives and that Government, local and national, is truly accountable to the people who elect it.

 

Holy cow,

I can't believe what my eyes are telling me I am reading here? Are you for real? Go back to school and do some history?

I am with Baldrick on this one, you just can't shine a **** !!!!

Just in case you are interested, I had the misfortune of being educated and "brought up" by the "master race", "white" and "superior" a$$H04es leftovers after the 2nd world war. THey were so far up their own a$$es that they couldn't see daylight !!!!

 

As to your original question : I would be voting for a politician? Right? No thanks mate, I'd rather go as an Anarchist (Barcelona 1930's) at least they talked to each other Oh, yes and, that proper working class movement was wiped out by you grandads Franco and Adolf !

[scifiden]

Good god! That sounds like my gran talking! What colour was he? Green? These days I think they prefer to be called black or Asian. It's less insulting.

 

I think this thread highlights a very good point about democracy. I cannot stand racism in any way, shape or form. There is _no_ place for it in a modern society. However, in a democracy we are allowed to have different views and, if it came down to it, I would fight to protect the rights of people to be racist *******. Those are not my personal politics though and there is no way that I condone that sort of think. I've traveled too far and met too many nice people around the world to think like that.

 

Yes, some people can be ####s. That's their right. I don't agree with them being ####s, but they can be.

 

 

Holy cow,

I can't believe what my eyes are telling me I am reading here? Are you for real? Go back to school and do some history?

I am with Baldrick on this one, you just can't shine a **** !!!!

Just in case you are interested, I had the misfortune of being educated and "brought up" by the "master race", "white" and "superior" a$$H04es leftovers after the 2nd world war. THey were so far up their own a$$es that they couldn't see daylight !!!!

 

As to your original question : I would be voting for a politician? Right? No thanks mate, I'd rather go as an Anarchist (Barcelona 1930's) at least they talked to each other Oh, yes and, that proper working class movement was wiped out by you grandads Franco and Adolf !

I thought this was a discussion on political views not name calling childish sssholes indeed

[Sundowner]

scifiden?

............and why exactly did you quote me? I called parties, historic figures like franco and especially Hitler axxxxxxs, don't tell me you got a problem with that ...............pleeeeaaaseee!!!

 

[scifiden]

scifiden?

............and why exactly did you quote me? I called parties, historic figures like franco and especially Hitler axxxxxxs, don't tell me you got a problem with that ...............pleeeeaaaseee!!!

 

My apologies Sundowner, did not mean to include your comment.

 

Den

[Sundowner]

Phew, cheers mate

[staglioni]

B.N.P Brits for Brit's

stag

[holly]

never voted in my life 47 yr old but i think its time to start ,at christmas my daughter took my grandson to see santa in bradford main market as she as done 2yrs previous only to be told santa wasent going to be there this year as it offends the muslims BNP is getting my vote

[Ozzy Fudd]

theres some good points in there, but theres also a lot that remind me of when i studied the rise of national socialism (the nazis) in germany...